Jet* on NZ domestic??

[DeltaT]

And then when they start their domestic ops they will do that from their Christchurch / Auz base? Is that feasible?!

[BGQ]

JQ A 320s

Somebody else may be able to confirm this but my understanding is that JQ A320s have less grunt than Air NZs and will have some problems operating off Rwy 34 at Wellington. They also are restricted at Queenstown and Rotorua so JQ has significant problems with entry to NZ domestic IF this is true?

[horserun]

Looking at both their websites:
Jetstar 24,480lbs
AirNZ 26,500lbs

Good point BGQ. Is that enough to keep Jetstar out of a domestic network in NZ??

[aulglarse]

BGQ and horserun, I'm not sure why but those figures are incorrect. JQ A320's are no different to NZ's as far as engine rating is concerned (IAE's with 26.5k rating).

As far as I know, there are no current restrictions for the A320 to operate in to or out of Wellington.

[aerostatic]

Somebody else may be able to confirm this but my understanding is that JQ A320s have less grunt than Air NZs and will have some problems operating off Rwy 34 at Wellington. They also are restricted at Queenstown and Rotorua so JQ has significant problems with entry to NZ domestic IF this is true?

Wouldn't be a problem at domestic weights. Rotorua is a potential problem but about to have the runway extended there.

[fourgolds]

So whats the latest ? Will crews be based in NZ or in OZ ? Tell us what the horses mouth said today.

[Sunstar320]

Starting off with 1 A320 based in Auckland with AKL crews.

Do JQ have a similar or close Pilot salary's to what ANZ A320's crews give? Mabye some transfers??

[waren9]

Sunstar

No.

Pilots to the opposition? Not likely.

It'll take about 18 months but my money is on the following..........

JetConnect "Sorry boys, we're closing up shop. Thanks for all your help."
JetConnect pilots: "****."

Jetstar "Hello boys, we've got some shiny new planes here, complete with a sh!thouse contract and payscales. Give us a call when you got A320 on ya licence..."

JetConnect Pilots: "****"

To say JQ and QF and NZ and PacBlue are all going to survive on the NZ maintrunk is insane.

Sadly, if its cheaper to make someone redundant than train him for the new job, can it go any other way?

Anyone see it any differently?

Edit: I apologise if it seems insensitive to any JetConnect guys. Just an opinion.

[framer]

JetConnect "Sorry boys, we're closing up shop. Thanks for all your help."
JetConnect pilots: "****."

I would be surprised to see that. I think it is safe to assume that QF is not going to remove the red tails from either the Tasman or domestic NZ. So if we take that as a given, then for your scenario to come into being QF would have to replace JC ops with mainline ops. What would be their motivation for doing that? Certainly not cost base or yield.

o say JQ and QF and NZ and PacBlue are all going to survive on the NZ maintrunk is insane.

I agree. There is only one player there that doesn't have rich parents, see ya.

[RAD_ALT_ALIVE]

Well, if an article that I read this morning (it's an e article, and I didn't take notice of who published it) where Buchanan was interviewed, is a true indication of his plans, then it will be us Aus-based JQ pilots who say "...****", and the Jetconnect pilots who say "...Feckin choice cuzzy bro"!!

He's quoted as saying that the delay to the B787 is good, because it gives JQ time to bed-in the A320 plans for NZ, prior to possibly introducing the Nightmareliner across the Pacific from - of all places - CHC.

Ah...the notion of loyalty is, if not dead, then a one-sided concept (and not from their side).

Now...what's Etihad's/Emirates'/Korean's/Air China's/Asiana's/Cathay's phone number????

[Alien Role]

.....and what about FlyDubai, starting up mid 2009 and looking for DEC's; with 54 new 800's ordered and a tax free package of about $225,000AU (or possibly more now the AU$ is down).

www.flydubai.com

[distracted cockroach]

"As far as I know, there are no current restrictions for the A320 to operate in to or out of Wellington."

Not for the Air NZ ones there aren't.....now. Air NZ use a computerised Take Off Data Calculator system that ACARS' the TOD to the aircraft (or Flight Planning room) Without this system (which I believe Jetstar don't have), using the tabulated figures from the individual runway take off charts, there were payload restrictions on RWY34. Admittedly these were for trans-Tasman flights. I don't think there would be any problems with domestic fuel loads.
This system made a huge difference to the amount of thrust reduction available on take-offs on all runways (with associated fuel and maintainance cost savings) and meant basically unrestricted loads out of PMR, DUD (03) as well as WLG (34).

[CI300]

Jetstar have advertised in the auckland weekend herald employment section for 3 senior person roles for a NZ AOC.

[Fruet Mich]

Jetconnect pilots: ****! John borghetti has just announced to jetconnect that its 300/400 fleet will be replaced with 737-800s throughout 2009 starting mid 2009.

Hmmmm? Looks like Jetconnect lives to see another day.

[rescue 1]

There is a piece of this puzzle still to be revealed...

Jetstar are setting up a NZ AOC to operate where? Tasman, domestic, Pacific??
Jetconnect getting B738 domestic;
PB operating B738 domestic/south pacific;
Air New Zealand doing all of the above.

Somethings got to give. Is the B738 for the QF brand a smoke screen??