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Old 7th Aug 2008, 07:04
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You've Got To Be Kidding, Red Rat Ground Return

This is really sh!tting me off. Another day, another Qantas scare | NEWS.com.au

While I was at Rex a lot worse than this happened (hydraulic failure etc), luckily they didn't report on any of their incidents!
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Old 7th Aug 2008, 07:17
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This is really terrible! Surely Quantas must be grounded immediately!

Qantas jet aborts take-off - National - BrisbaneTimes - brisbanetimes.com.au

Just lucky I work for such a fantastic airline where this would never happen...

(sorry. couldn't help myself)
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Well this time it definetely is the "Thronomister", pity the fools who developed such a feeble system.
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Get Used to This

This sort of ridiculous hysterical reporting is going to go on for awhile.
At least until CASA completes its extensive(sic) audit.
Its not worth getting your knickers in a knot.
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Posted by virgindriver:

This is really terrible! Surely Quantas must be grounded immediately!
No wonder you didn't get into QANTAS!!

Sorry, couldn't help myself!
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No wonder you didn't get into QANTAS!!
Why would you want to work for Qantas, there is better companies that know how to look after their staff better.
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anyone see the dribble on Today Tonight? No wonder Dixon is getting out, he'd be getting sick of saying how good the airline is every day.Did Ansett ever get this much attention?
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Just announced today that Qantas are cutting some staff from their safety department....

Surely the d!ckheads running this company can see it would be foolish to cut your saftey department at a time when they are headed for a serious incident..

One wonders how long the tail has been wagging the dog at this insipid excuse of a once great airline!!

Aviation in Aus need some serious attention.....where are you CASA, time to act before it's too late..
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where are you CASA, time to act before it's too late
Actually my question is, where are the shareholders?

One would've thought that anyone holding a large chunk of shares would be on the dog to Dixo and his little leprechaun trainee, pointing out that while cost-cutting to date has served the bottom line well, the negative press (whether or not justified) is now undoing all that good work, so it might be time to steady the ship, make a big headline about employing a new intake of appies, etc. Even window-dressing stuff would have a big effect.

It would not be that hard to actually make a statement to the effect that the public should expect a very conservative approach from Qantas going forward so if the crew even thinks they hear a thronomister rattling as they taxy to the rwy, they'll get it checked out; that not having it checked would be reckless cowboyship.

That way, if QF830 does return to the terminal, it's not an incident, rather it's purely in line with stated policy. Yes I know that that is actually the case at the moment, but Mr Jones in 26C doesn't - for him, a return is an 'emergency' rather than compliance with a conservative safety policy.

What are QF's media luvvies doing? Doesn't anyone there know how to put spin on anything other than redundancy notices and executive bonus payments?



Is it just me, or has the number of negative stories in the press increased since certain people left the Board last year... ?
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BREAKING NEWS

A QANTAS flight attendant spilt a cup of coffee onboard an aircraft today. QF and CASA have promised a full investigation. Several passengers interviewed praised the crews handling of the emergency, following standard procedures paper towels were used to mop up the spillage. The aircraft landed safely.
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Good sense of humour Metro... No doubt that will be the next article in SMH!
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A QANTAS flight attendant spilt a cup of coffee onboard an aircraft today. QF and CASA have promised a full investigation.
Ever see the movie Fate is the Hunter with Glenn Ford & Rod Taylor ? A cup of coffee led to the aircraft crashing killing all on board. Fortunately Glenn figured it out
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Seem to remember this sort of thing happening to another airline just before Easter a few years ago.....

b.
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is it just a case of enough journalists being fed up with excessive and all to common delays? the Pax arnt happy, and the journalists arnt either, but the journo's get their own back by writing as much negative commentary on the airline as possible.

If Qf treated their staff, and Customers they way they should be, and provided a good reliable service, then there wouldn't be so much QF bashing in the media.
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Metro Man,

You forgot to mention the pilots grimly wrestling with the controls and just missing the local school, hospital and endangered-species sanctuary as they then safely landed the out-of-control aircraft. And the passengers who were praying in the aisles, including Mrs Chav from Sylvania Waters who "thought we were all going to die - I mean, the hostesses are not supposed to spill the coffee, are they? Of course it made us fear for our lives!".
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There's plenty more that the press hasn't gotten hold of. You can only cut so much fat before you get to the meat .. now we're at the bone!
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there were some strange noises coming from the aircraft i was on the other day and a lady started vomiting shortly after..she feared for her life.

i think it might have been a safety issue...
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Well Said Ultralights and Boocs.

I remember that airline and it wasn't that long ago.



What you all seem to be missing here is the customer perspective.

Airline professionals treat ground returns as normal, and air returns as semi normal, and delays as undesirable but inevitable.

Clients by and large are expected to assume that everything is just fine, sit back and enjoy the delays, which they do until a point where they begin to ask questions.

Now it's Qantas' turn to answer the questions as nearly every flight is delayed and the problem is usually engineering related.

If the public are pointing problems out to the airline and it's management, even where it is pointed out in the most basic manner, maybe it's time to listen rather than be arrogant and tell those damn awful paying customers that that they just are complaining about nothing.....

Time someone was invited to the Qantas board who wasn't just a yes man insider.

Three of of my last four sectors were delayed and during the time that I had the pleasure of waiting I observed a large amount of delays for other flights around me, including announcements at 2 PM in SYD like "Ladies and Gentlemen The Qantas Club wishes to advise that no alternative flight bookings are available to Melbourne before 10:30 PM"

So whatever is making the media is little compared to the reality that Qantas is not doing well at this time

Whenever I travel now these days people ask me jokingly if I am flying Qantas and wish me well.

So people don't make fun of a ground return when it's reported in the media, because it's just the tip of the iceberg showing you how bad the airline that you work for is doing in it's market place.

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QF need to employ a PR spin media bloke like Gibson. Oh sorry, you say he is already?
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Heard a whisper that it was the 737 that was so well maintained in Malaysia recently. Also it heard it has been rescheduled into Heavy Maintenance to have the check done again.
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