Joyce the new CEO of Qantas
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I'd like to see the stats on 1st time jet endorsed pilots of the Airbus variety converting to Boeing, just how well do they do?
Hasn't Boeing got some stats on this?
Aren't there a lot of low time Airbus only endorsed pilots in JetStar?
Can't wait to see the pass rate with min cost endorsements all the rage!
Hasn't Boeing got some stats on this?
Aren't there a lot of low time Airbus only endorsed pilots in JetStar?
Can't wait to see the pass rate with min cost endorsements all the rage!
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Recently J* announced that they were not inviting Qantas Engineering to bid for the 787 contract as they were going to do all their servicing themselves. Where they are going to get enough experienced engineers with a new type license, to handle the 60 odd aircraft they're going to be getting, is beyond us.
I can't wait to see J* flounder out there with inexperienced LAME's and AME's. It should be fun to watch them try and operate on their own with out the support of Qantas Engineering.
I can't wait to see J* flounder out there with inexperienced LAME's and AME's. It should be fun to watch them try and operate on their own with out the support of Qantas Engineering.
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Why on earth would Jetstar convert "low time" airbus pilots onto the 787?
Almost every Airbus pilot they currently have today would by definition have at least 750 hours more (and that would be say 350 sectors minimum) by next September/October when I guess the first crews would hit the sim. It will take probably 18 months minimum for the 15 787s to arrive so the lowest crews on the totem pole will be racking up even more hours by the time their turn comes.
I've never seen a JQ crew in action in the simulator but I have no special reason to think that they're of any higher or lower standard than anyone else at other airlines. If anything the fact that the young pilots go straight into the 320 right seat and do lots of sectors would mean their skills would develop faster than someone stuck in the back seat of a 744.
As for "Airbus only" pilots converting to FBW Boeings.....at my old airline plenty of guys did it and didn't seem to be a problem. I heard JQ have plenty of 777/744 captains on their books so I don't suppose getting the Boeing flavour into the place will be difficult.
Almost every Airbus pilot they currently have today would by definition have at least 750 hours more (and that would be say 350 sectors minimum) by next September/October when I guess the first crews would hit the sim. It will take probably 18 months minimum for the 15 787s to arrive so the lowest crews on the totem pole will be racking up even more hours by the time their turn comes.
I've never seen a JQ crew in action in the simulator but I have no special reason to think that they're of any higher or lower standard than anyone else at other airlines. If anything the fact that the young pilots go straight into the 320 right seat and do lots of sectors would mean their skills would develop faster than someone stuck in the back seat of a 744.
As for "Airbus only" pilots converting to FBW Boeings.....at my old airline plenty of guys did it and didn't seem to be a problem. I heard JQ have plenty of 777/744 captains on their books so I don't suppose getting the Boeing flavour into the place will be difficult.
Nunc est bibendum
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As for "Airbus only" pilots converting to FBW Boeings.....at my old airline plenty of guys did it and didn't seem to be a problem. I heard JQ have plenty of 777/744 captains on their books so I don't suppose getting the Boeing flavour into the place will be difficult.
I know that when your inconsistencies are pointed out genex you tend to not bother with a real response so I won't hold my breath waiting for one. 
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Not having anything to do with QF or J*
Hi friends - had a chat with a J* Asia F/O yesterday at WSSS...he wasn't aware of the forum so I have pointed him here.
To supplement some of Keg's offerings for our new friend - and as mentioned in the title I am not QF or J* - it's simply a question - are J* Asia tech on the same EBA's as J* AUS?
Cheers - and hey to all of you folks affected in whichever way by the new appointment - best wishes - hope it works out well for everyone concerned.
Chardster...
To supplement some of Keg's offerings for our new friend - and as mentioned in the title I am not QF or J* - it's simply a question - are J* Asia tech on the same EBA's as J* AUS?
Cheers - and hey to all of you folks affected in whichever way by the new appointment - best wishes - hope it works out well for everyone concerned.
Chardster...
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Keg,
As a young genex, I was at an airline where they got their first jet (my dearly beloved 727) and no-one who went on it had ever flown a jet before. They managed very very well.
I'll bet if there were no jets in the world and the 787 was the first, then JQ or anyone else would manage that well too.
The issue is choice....if you had a choice, given the brother/sister relationship b/w 777 and 787, you would choose experienced 777 drivers to be your lead instructors. Its that simple.
In no way am I putting down QF drivers....hardly their fault that the airline never ordered 777s.
I would have thought that a 767 crew would have no trouble going onto the 787. Now that Manning has gone you should all press your new CP to open up the MOU.
As a young genex, I was at an airline where they got their first jet (my dearly beloved 727) and no-one who went on it had ever flown a jet before. They managed very very well.
I'll bet if there were no jets in the world and the 787 was the first, then JQ or anyone else would manage that well too.
The issue is choice....if you had a choice, given the brother/sister relationship b/w 777 and 787, you would choose experienced 777 drivers to be your lead instructors. Its that simple.
In no way am I putting down QF drivers....hardly their fault that the airline never ordered 777s.
I would have thought that a 767 crew would have no trouble going onto the 787. Now that Manning has gone you should all press your new CP to open up the MOU.
Thought this might interest some of you. In the spirit of CEOs actually being active in protecting and nurturing their relationship with staff and the airline (ANZ CEO comes to mind) have a look at this interview on Larry King with the CEO of JetBlue Airways, Dave Barger. Interesting part is how he took a 50% pay cut to prevent staff cuts...
CNN.com - Transcripts
CNN.com - Transcripts
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Sunfish ..Password Stolen?
Sunfish you have made many insightful posts over the years .The posts that you have made over the last few days would tend to indicate that someone has stolen your PPrune password.
Suggesting that AJ admires the IRA is a little....shall we say ...silly
Suggesting that AJ admires the IRA is a little....shall we say ...silly
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Sunfish,
How about taking a slight amount of responsibility for your posts?
If you had actually bothered to conduct even the most cursitory check of the facts you ascribe to the "person" you ran into, you would have found out that AJ has never had anything to do with Ryanair - he was employed by Aer Lingus.
As for then going on to post that anyone is a "fan" of the I.R.A. - I hope AJ does a "Dick Smith" and takes you to court. I can't think of a more stupid statement (in a forum that has many) than this.
How about taking a slight amount of responsibility for your posts?
If you had actually bothered to conduct even the most cursitory check of the facts you ascribe to the "person" you ran into, you would have found out that AJ has never had anything to do with Ryanair - he was employed by Aer Lingus.
As for then going on to post that anyone is a "fan" of the I.R.A. - I hope AJ does a "Dick Smith" and takes you to court. I can't think of a more stupid statement (in a forum that has many) than this.
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Now that Sunfish has "soiled himself" - let's get back on topic, shall we?
We're not talking about who's dick's bigger, you QF and JQ types
it's about Alan Joyce.
Cranky TID
We're not talking about who's dick's bigger, you QF and JQ types
it's about Alan Joyce.Cranky TID
I abjectly apologise for alleging that Mr. Joyce is/was a fan or has any sympathies with of the IRA. I have no knowledge of this matter at all except hearsay from a person whose veracity I cannot confirm.
Satisfy you Mr. Tid?
Satisfy you Mr. Tid?
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You can watch me rot while you're at it, Sunfish.
In not so many words I've suggested this to you before. Please let me do it again;
"Never miss the opportunity to shut-up". Here's your chance.
GO!
In not so many words I've suggested this to you before. Please let me do it again;
"Never miss the opportunity to shut-up". Here's your chance.
GO!
I'll watch you rot, tunedog.
Or work a similar accent round - "Where I come from we make fertilizer out of better than you."
