MERGED: Qantas Decompression ?
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I am listening to the BBC World Service. Thr reporter just aked a passenger.."how far did the aircraft plunge before the pilot regained control"
Why cant these idiots ask someone with knowledge before they open thier mouths?
On another note, have not heard much from GD..too busy adding up the bonus?
Why cant these idiots ask someone with knowledge before they open thier mouths?
On another note, have not heard much from GD..too busy adding up the bonus?
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Fris, Yes I did have a quiet chuckle when the noobs on Ch7 said the other day that the aircraft carrying the Pope was called 'Longreach'... but I digress!
Well done to the folks up the pointy end!
That's one way to get your attention!
Not wanting to dispel the O2 theory but since cans are only made of thin aluminum, and most have holes in them already since they tend to get the crap belted out of them by the bags I think that the 8psi of differential put paid to the side of the ULD when the hole let go.
Looking at the pics it is in no way related to UA811, that was an issue with the door itself unlocking in flight, something long since fixed (thank god). As you can see in the pics the door is still closed an locked... and I assume it'll stay that way until the ATSB want to get in there tomorrow sometime.
Let's not get the cart before the horse folks... this report will make some good reading!
Well done to the folks up the pointy end!
That's one way to get your attention!Not wanting to dispel the O2 theory but since cans are only made of thin aluminum, and most have holes in them already since they tend to get the crap belted out of them by the bags I think that the 8psi of differential put paid to the side of the ULD when the hole let go.
Looking at the pics it is in no way related to UA811, that was an issue with the door itself unlocking in flight, something long since fixed (thank god). As you can see in the pics the door is still closed an locked... and I assume it'll stay that way until the ATSB want to get in there tomorrow sometime.
Let's not get the cart before the horse folks... this report will make some good reading!
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Looking again, I think it would have to be an oxy cylinder - they live at Sta 720 - Sta 780 - exactly where the damage is.
However, the presence of luggage would seem to indicate an explosion came within the container unless the bang was big enough to damage and open the sides of the container - but it would have to be a very big bang!
More of a worry, a pax is quoted thus:
"I'm looking at the plane now and on the left hand side, just forward of the wing, there's a gaping hole from the wing to the underbody," she said.
The pic shows damage on the R/H side - unless of course, there are 2 holes......
This might explain:
Peter Gibson from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority says initial reports indicate a problem with the air pressure in the cabin.
"The pilot has some pressurisation warnings about a door on the left hand side of the aircraft, but exactly what went wrong is still being determined," he said.
Could there be 2 different areas of damage?
However, the presence of luggage would seem to indicate an explosion came within the container unless the bang was big enough to damage and open the sides of the container - but it would have to be a very big bang!
More of a worry, a pax is quoted thus:
"I'm looking at the plane now and on the left hand side, just forward of the wing, there's a gaping hole from the wing to the underbody," she said.
The pic shows damage on the R/H side - unless of course, there are 2 holes......
This might explain:
Peter Gibson from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority says initial reports indicate a problem with the air pressure in the cabin.
"The pilot has some pressurisation warnings about a door on the left hand side of the aircraft, but exactly what went wrong is still being determined," he said.
Could there be 2 different areas of damage?
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am listening to the BBC World Service. Thr reporter just aked a passenger.."how far did the aircraft plunge before the pilot regained control"
Why cant these idiots ask someone with knowledge before they open thire mouths?
On another note, have not heard much from GD..too busy adding up the bonus?
Why cant these idiots ask someone with knowledge before they open thire mouths?
On another note, have not heard much from GD..too busy adding up the bonus?
As for Lord Voldemort... he's working out how many more to lay off to pay for this and increase his bonus!
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When is the next shareholders meeting? Some of you learned shareholders might need to ask some pertinent questions!
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This is Qantas new aircraft, it is called the Mark V Comet...
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for crying out loud -lets cut the jokes.this is a damn close run thing-
i am just glad every one got out of this alive-
we all know a lot questions will be asked -
1. IED?
2. OXY BOTTLE?
3. FATIGUE CRACKING?
4.THE CLOSURE OF H245 B744 HEAVY MAINT AND THE CONTRACTING OUT OF MAINT INCLUDING AVV.
5. MANAGEMENTS ROLL IN THIS
great work tech crew and cabin
i am just glad every one got out of this alive-
we all know a lot questions will be asked -
1. IED?
2. OXY BOTTLE?
3. FATIGUE CRACKING?
4.THE CLOSURE OF H245 B744 HEAVY MAINT AND THE CONTRACTING OUT OF MAINT INCLUDING AVV.
5. MANAGEMENTS ROLL IN THIS
great work tech crew and cabin
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I am booked to fly on QF30 soon, but at least I still have faith in Aussie pilot training. However, I'm not so sure about these 744s until the real cause is found - don't want to end up like Aloha in '88 or (worse) Valujet in the Florida Everglades in '96.
As my flight instructor would say: "Whoever worked on this aircraft also worked on the other ones too …"
As my flight instructor would say: "Whoever worked on this aircraft also worked on the other ones too …"
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More of a worry, a pax is quoted thus:
"I'm looking at the plane now and on the left hand side, just forward of the wing, there's a gaping hole from the wing to the underbody," she said.
"I'm looking at the plane now and on the left hand side, just forward of the wing, there's a gaping hole from the wing to the underbody," she said.
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Another Possibility
Maybe this is more of a question for a 744 Eng/Airframe LAME.
Maybe the wing to body fairing may have been loose enabling the airflow to rip it from the airframe. I noticed that the portion that is still intact is possibly tied to the airframe using tie-rods. Does the missing part also use tie-rods? If this is so, as the fairing seperated, maybe the tie-rod mounts damaged the pressurised area as they were pulled away (thus causing the explosive decompression). Seems strange that the fairing has come away clean (screws and all) on the fwd-most area.
Maybe the wing to body fairing may have been loose enabling the airflow to rip it from the airframe. I noticed that the portion that is still intact is possibly tied to the airframe using tie-rods. Does the missing part also use tie-rods? If this is so, as the fairing seperated, maybe the tie-rod mounts damaged the pressurised area as they were pulled away (thus causing the explosive decompression). Seems strange that the fairing has come away clean (screws and all) on the fwd-most area.