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Old 16th Jul 2008, 21:41
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QF to shed 2000 jobs

2000 Qantas jobs axed as fuel prices bite | NEWS.com.au

I wonder how much is actually off shoring or moving to Jetstar?
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Old 16th Jul 2008, 22:20
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Who says it won't include jetstar.
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I saw an exec on the Tv this morning talking about it and almost went out of his way to say Pilots and Engineers were not going to be exempt from the job cuts... Worring times
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Beware

Watch out you junior guys. I was one of the 140 odd cadets / second officers retrenched in 1971. The union of the era , made a lot of noise and promises to have the retrenchments overturned. They went to a meeting with the company and came out with a pay rise. You will get screwed by your union. Incidentally , QF completed our courses. I never went back. As in all industrial situations , the boss is the obvious enemy BUT the union is often your far more dangerous one.
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All junior QF pilots remain clear of the exits, lest you be trampled by Elderly Captains rushing to daylight (and their redundency payments).
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So while the core work force has the threat of job cuts....the board continues to expand...nice
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Don't worry - Captain Kev's changes to that evil workchoice legislation will save you.
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bwahahahaha Priaprism, that funny!!

we'll all be able to negotiate flexibility right up until the company says "nope, on reasonable business grounds, I don't agree".

The real question is - what is a 'reasonable business ground' ..
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This would merely be an attempt by GoD to firm up the share price as his exit approaches....? After all, his termination payments are purely and simply based on the share price!

I don't see that this is any different to previous staff cutbacks, which have resulted in the very best staff leaving, and then being hired back as more expensive contractors 6 months later... And that is just the ones who had they could actaully get back!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 00:21
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QF

Anyone care to speculate where jobs will most likely be cut?
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 00:24
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I'd say long haul flight attendants would be a certainty to be offered redundancy as they can easily be replaced by the new QCCA one's at a much lower cost.
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Mr Boeing,

I believe the LH FAs had exactly that clause written into their last EBA so GD couldnt do that. Doesn't mean he couldnt offer them attractive voluntary packages though.

Here's to hoping that if redundancies occur in Tech Crew world that the over 60s and senior guys are offered packages so that the young guys/gals (read: future of the company) don't get screwed.

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Starting with himself dixon should slowly work his way down.
Go though Engineering Managment
Next Ops Management
Then CC getting rid of the "visitors"
dixon should invite shop floor staff to assist with this culling.
Floors 7 8 and 9 of QCA and floor 4 of QCC are the best places to look for "cullees"
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 00:55
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WORK CHOICES, only the name has been changed to protect the innocent...
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From past experiences of QF "bloodletting" decent hard working people get shafted, buuuuut if you are a B#$ch and a dobber, or useless but a bullS$#t artist you'r safe, ditto, the chairmans deranged nephew who is in charge of anything beginning with R, rubber bands etc. Believe me after neally 50 yrs in the airlines I have seen it all before, and I am so sorry for these good people.
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I'm QCCA and was very much looking forward to a long career with Qantas. As far as I'm aware our EBA is pretty much last onboard first to go if there are cutbacks. I've worked with alot of senior crew who would be happy to take a VR, but will they be offered? The curious thing is that they are still recruiting and training.
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This whole sorry state of affairs could be made into a mini series.

How about "MASCOT..2.0.2.0" or "The Cull" or "Roo Shoot"

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Let me guess, a few open and expired EBA's???
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QueenBuzzzzz....Many years ago during another slow down in aviation the company was retrenching and recruiting cabin Crew at the same time...

Whether this was by design or because of a lack of communication I'm not sure but with this company anything is possible....
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Good news for jetstar, bad news for qantas.

Lucky those second officers who recently made FO, things may slow down somewhat from here.
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