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Old 17th Jun 2008, 01:20
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definately a320,

jetstar perth base opening in october....

jetstar flying both perth-denpasar and perth-jakarta...

what does this mean for the qf perth base as these are both qf 737 flights...?? (stand to be corrected)
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 05:37
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'Operated by JETSTAR' but uses B737-8's!
Just another ****-up by the types who put info into the Reservations Systems.

Such a simple matter to get right!
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Old 17th Jun 2008, 05:43
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Give them time, there always so slow when updating their sites (ie- JQ and QF). JQ sometime still have the same expired sale banner on their homepage, 2days later!
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 10:08
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Geoff Star (JQ) is now opening a base in PER. Interesting thing is that the desirable language skill is Japanese. There goes PER-NRT's....
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 08:35
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.
There are things called slots in NRT.
I'd have a look at the fine print relating to the transmission of those slots!
Looks like the AnusClowns may have felched again!
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 08:55
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Slots are applied at nearly all airports; their interchange between QF and Jet* does not a appear to have been an issue at any airport, in Australia or elsewhere!
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 08:58
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The slots are not transferrable

Under the bilateral there must be replacement of like with like...
It is the same the world over.

Sorry J* despite what Geoff wants, you are not of the same ilk....

A gross miscalculation, just like J* Asia, his desire to fly to Taipei, not supported by China. Thus the Chinese market off limits.... and that is why Mr. Clifford is asking the question Madge wouldn't.
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 09:09
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QFInsider,

One has searched in vain for any evidence that you have ever been wrong or failed to know more than everyone else. Pretty impressive. One does then wonder why Geoff doesn't use your wisdom to triple QF profits and make himself even richer? Bit of a puzzle isn't it.

I suspect you're not a pilot and am thankful for that. "I know all" attitudes are not the foundation stones upon which safe flying is built.

Anyway, good luck wherever you work.
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 09:13
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Looks like the AnusClowns may have felched again!

QE management have been very disrespectfull and cast adrift
JAL and the long honoured agreements for maintenance.
As if the decision to give the 330's contract to EVA and get rid
of the QF lames and JALNAM in NRT was not enough.
There have been some JAL bigwigs in town lately,
and they are not looking very happy.
It will come back to bite QF on the @$$ soon enough.
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 16:49
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Muff: " what does this mean for the qf perth base as these are both qf 737 flights...?? (stand to be corrected)"

It means the QF PER base won't be flying those services. They are infrequent anyway (two or three per week). These services have always been on the chopping board for the B737 (as was DRW-DPS)

Meanwhile the WA domestic flying (which is high yield mining business, and consists of customers who will not fly LCCs...) continues to expand exponentially and they need all the B737NGs they can get. No competition from LCCs, only Skywest is the threat. Five new QF 737-800s arrived in the last couple of months to expand the market. New WA mining destinations and increased services to existing destinations about to kick off (at the expense of QFLink). That is what the QF PER base will be doing - and quite profitably, I expect.
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 23:29
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HF....thats good news, I wasn't trying to rain on anyones parade...just asking the question.

Seems now that JQ will be doing Per-Sin as well, starting Dec..

Is this also a qf 73 route or a new one for the group??
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 23:57
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triple QF profits and make himself even richer
Genex anyone can cut costs to save money and make the bottom line look good. You seem to be attacking Qfinsider for thinking that the premium customers should be looked after as they attract the yield. Cos i'll tell you what, premium pax still fly, downturn or not.. Furthermore, we can only continue to disappoint them for so long given that Cathay and Emirates provide quality service also.

Muff - the 330s normally do Per-Sin. 737 used to go Per - Bali - Sin, but only twice a week.
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 00:46
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You wont be seeing any of JQ's A330 over in Perth guys, all A320, mabye A321 services
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 02:26
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No, one would have to wait for the Boeing 787s to see any JQ widebody action from Perth. A320/321s are just the start if all goes according to plan.
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 04:44
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Meanwhile the WA domestic flying (which is high yield mining business, and consists of customers who will not fly LCCs...) continues to expand exponentially and they need all the B737NGs they can get. No competition from LCCs, only Skywest is the threat. Five new QF 737-800s arrived in the last couple of months to expand the market. New WA mining destinations and increased services to existing destinations about to kick off (at the expense of QFLink). That is what the QF PER base will be doing - and quite profitably, I expect.
Further to this, given the extra demand and the 73Hs all heading to PER, there has been rumour of the 717s heading back East again and NJS setting up a CBR base for them... Anyone heard more? A 717 would walk all over a beat-up old 737-400 on CBR-SYD and CBR-MEL, not to mention those Dash 8s (esp as more and more pax work out that the E170 is a far nice aircraft from a pax perspective)...
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 07:19
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APACAU,

Everyone I know (in this current fiscal environment especially) vote with their wallets. Does not matter a sh1t what type of a/c services the route.

Anyway, from what I am hearing the EMB180(LOL) is not going all that well. I do stand to be corrected on that.

On a side note, how does a 76 seat jet a/c compete on economics with a 72 seat turboprop on sectors under 90 mins(assuming that they are both full of course). DJ crew paid more $$ and the EMB burning twice the fuel.

A serious question.
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 07:27
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What's the sector fuel for a dash 400 cb-sy?
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 10:56
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1400-1600 pounds
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 11:15
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DHC4 burns around 600-700kg between SY and CB.

Reason Qantas have only a few jet services a day to CB is even with full loads B737 makes no money between SY and CB, where a full Dash 8 makes heaps. The jets are only there to keep those that just have to fly business class happy, and position aircraft to do other services out of CB.

Even with lower operating costs, such as Virgin or NJS, I would guess very little profit would be made, even with every flight full.
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 14:53
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The new PER international runs by Jq will compete with Garuda and their all economy 737-300/800's. Bring it on!
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