OzJet Takeover
Heavy, as I said I would, I acknowledge your Japan trip after being handed a copy of the OZ roster. It is refreshing to see you finally, FINALLY, posted something that turned out to be legit.
But, if the other posts are to be believed, you seem to be making a mess of your dominance over Our Airline. Heard you dropped the HIR flights and OA picked them up - not the first time you've handed work to them and is hardly the way to overcome a competitor, is it?
But, if the other posts are to be believed, you seem to be making a mess of your dominance over Our Airline. Heard you dropped the HIR flights and OA picked them up - not the first time you've handed work to them and is hardly the way to overcome a competitor, is it?
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Now, now D3G's, don't get too excited that HC has finally written something worth reading and which turned out to be factual for once. You need to compare that flash of truthfulness against a lot of the other rubbish he has written and which hasn't reflected the facts.
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Seldomfixit, if you still have not worked out who NL is, do a search of BASI report 9401043. Being an accident report which does not purport to lay blame - only reveal cause and effect, it does not reveal names. Ask around.
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real reason for the turn back????
This from a Google alert on Ozjet late last week. Now OJ can't be that stupid, more like typical (mis)reporting the press is very good at, however maybe HC, who seems to know all that goes on at OJ, can tell us the real reason for the turn back.
"A lot of people just got off the boat at Vanuatu and got straight on a plane home," Mrs Bassett said.
"Ozjet Airlines was chartered to take the remaining passengers home, but the drama was not quite over.
An hour into the flight out of Vanuatu the plane was turned around when it was found the pilot had no licence to land at night in Auckland."
"A lot of people just got off the boat at Vanuatu and got straight on a plane home," Mrs Bassett said.
"Ozjet Airlines was chartered to take the remaining passengers home, but the drama was not quite over.
An hour into the flight out of Vanuatu the plane was turned around when it was found the pilot had no licence to land at night in Auckland."
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WITWIW, is that just a dumb ass post, or you are just now scraping the bottom of the barrel for muck raking.
This is probably the article you talk about:
Voyage a cruise this time round - Local News - Waikato Times
Sorry....the OZJET involvement in that occurred in July 2007 (even the article listed that), BTW that was 12 MONTHS AGO (nothing like old news for a current debate is there!!).
Like him or hate him, (and not being an apologist for NL in the slightest) he had nothing to do with OZ then.
Your credibility on this one is ZERO.
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This is probably the article you talk about:
Voyage a cruise this time round - Local News - Waikato Times
Sorry....the OZJET involvement in that occurred in July 2007 (even the article listed that), BTW that was 12 MONTHS AGO (nothing like old news for a current debate is there!!).
Like him or hate him, (and not being an apologist for NL in the slightest) he had nothing to do with OZ then.
Your credibility on this one is ZERO.
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The event may be twelve months old but the article has only just come to light and I didn't see anywhere where WITWIW refered to NL. As far as muck raking WITWIW even says it was probably to do with bad reporting and was simply asking what did happen. If it was a HF failure as stated then Oz must have bad radioes as the same thing recently happened on one of their former Solomons flights. Me thinks you are a bit too touchy and should read some of HL's threads if you want to see some muck raking.
They had a whole heap of turnbacks because of HF failure. There is only one HF radio in their aircraft, which is not the way to run oceanic operations with any reliability. One Captain was severely criticized (and it may have contributed to his being laid off, even though they are now advertising for pilots) for his stance on turning back on Honiara and Norfolk flights whenever the HF died. It was expected that pilots could bluff their way there and back home by using VHF to ask other aircraft to relay. That may be OK very occasionally, but when it becomes a habit ATC and everyone else who uses the HF system gets a bit pissed off.
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Thanks, Mauswara.
Yes, SAA, that was the article, published on 12th July 2008. It was the first I'd heard of it and if you can't tell the difference between a genuine attempt to find the real reason for the turn-back (as against what was printed) and alleged muck-raking, then pity you.
Yes, SAA, that was the article, published on 12th July 2008. It was the first I'd heard of it and if you can't tell the difference between a genuine attempt to find the real reason for the turn-back (as against what was printed) and alleged muck-raking, then pity you.
What's happened to Heavy Cargo and all his posturing about how OJ/HL were going to see out all their opposition by competing on their respective routes etc. It's all gone very quiet and not much seems to be happening these days!!!
How are the ADFcharters going? Heard Defence was somewhat unhappy that the last several to/from SYD/DIL were all late causing problems with connecting flights.
Time to come back out of the woodwork HC.
How are the ADFcharters going? Heard Defence was somewhat unhappy that the last several to/from SYD/DIL were all late causing problems with connecting flights.
Time to come back out of the woodwork HC.
