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JQ MEL - PER Diverted to ADL

Old 29th Apr 2008, 01:22
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JQ MEL - PER Diverted to ADL

Hi all

had a friend on a JQ flight from Melbourne to Perth which was diverted to Adelaide.

Apparently the aircraft had to dump fuel and conditions were rather bumpy (probably only due WX though).

Anyone got any info as to what happend there?
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Old 29th Apr 2008, 01:34
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An A320 dumping fuel? I'd like to see that.
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Old 29th Apr 2008, 01:39
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Old 29th Apr 2008, 01:39
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Yes Sue, it's called dumping fuel thru the combustion chambers!
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Old 29th Apr 2008, 03:22
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Haha, yes I totally forgot that 320's and RJ's didn't have fuel dump facilities...

Only going by what my friend told me...

Details are:

JQ970 departing tullamarine at 2040
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Old 29th Apr 2008, 12:10
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.......keep it at full rich for a while, full flap, gear down & make the Capt put his wallet to one side, that should create an out of balance plane & use yet more fuel !.......that ought to help!



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Old 29th Apr 2008, 23:52
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So noones got any info about this? Would have thought an aircraft making an emergency landing would at least make the news, or travel fairly quickly down the grapevine.

NB: I'm assuming an Emergency as pax were asked to brace, though not sure if that is just protocol regradless of the severity issue requiring a divert...
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Old 30th Apr 2008, 01:18
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Biggles.

My sister was on that flight. She mentioned nothing about being ordered to brace. Nor did she say it was very bumpy. All she mentioned was the inconvenience of arriving in Perth at 2am instead of the scheduled time.
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Old 30th Apr 2008, 04:08
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keep it at full rich for a while, full flap, gear down & make the Capt put his wallet to one side, that should create an out of balance plane & use yet more fuel !.......that ought to help!
You must have missed the bit that said it was a Jetstar aircraft. Captain's wallet wouldn't be too heavy, except maybe with all the rand he took out of SA.
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Old 30th Apr 2008, 07:51
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So noones got any info about this? Would have thought an aircraft making an emergency landing would at least make the news, or travel fairly quickly down the grapevine.

NB: I'm assuming an Emergency as pax were asked to brace, though not sure if that is just protocol regradless of the severity issue requiring a divert...
No emergency, just a late call (west of AD) about not quite enough juice for the trip.
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Old 30th Apr 2008, 09:44
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and conditions were rather bumpy
was that industrially bumpy or were the bumps from when the dodgy half of the JPC, that were trying to run over all the original EBA "no" voters.

They couldn't dump fuel because the J* A320s require you to insert coin for many procedures. Like cleared ILS approach and then you slide a gold coin in to get up the localiser up

- the fuel jettison too requires a coin

but as you can see it costs far more and therefor was over budget for the trip.

So the Captain initiated the GRADE protocol and They Gathered all their money

they Reveiwed their conditions



Adelaide was looked at

Diversion was initiated

Evaluation was made that the crew wished that the coin slots took the south african Rand so that DEC could have paid for the fuel dump
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Old 30th Apr 2008, 12:52
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Maybe it was just a professional crew doing a good job. Thought of that?

BTW....aren't there still a few DECs still in QF from 19 years back? Didn't Qantas buy a nearly defunct airline and with that, buy a lot of instant 737 and A300 Captains?

Doesn't fuss me but I'd rather see both sides of an argument in print, not just the nice picture clippings.

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land of 4 x... grow up doofis
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Old 30th Apr 2008, 23:40
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Thanks guys... will put it the comments about what happend down to an over-dramatic female
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Land of 4x. You would want to hope your GA job pays as well as a Jetstar Captains gig does. What ever your flying, with your attitude get used to it. Id say you will be on that 152 for quite a while. Im assuming that you most probably haven't been exposed to airline ops due to the nature of your 5yr old style comments. I hope you aren't an instructor.

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Sherm

BTW....aren't there still a few DECs still in QF from 19 years back? Didn't Qantas buy a nearly defunct airline and with that, buy a lot of instant 737 and A300 Captains?
No doubt designed to enrage but I'll bite.

I suspect you are a typical red rat injected [email protected]&*wit.
Perhaps I'm wrong.

And yes I am ex TN for what it's worth but unlike yourself I'm happy to move on.

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Land of. I have actually never paid for an endorsement being one of the older types. I think that what you have lost sight of is that the young blokes that choose this path do so knowing that in the long term ( 5 yrs max ) they will be earning good money. With most other airlines in this country doing this now as have many o\s for a long time, I think you may find yourself getting marooned on your ever decreasing high moral ground. Perhaps attitudes like yours are more indicative of the eventual slide of Aus with the emergence of generation y and z onto the aviation scene. The good old days are unfortunately that.

Now, put your Nintendo away and go and run around outside till your called for dinner!!!

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Old 2nd May 2008, 00:51
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You've not heard of unforecast changes to aerodrome conditions?
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Old 2nd May 2008, 03:29
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And Perth is a classic when it comes to unforecast wx
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The rumour I heard was that the Jet* planning software is limited in that if a flight is overbooked, the data resets itself. Ie. if the a/c has 200 seats for example and the flight has 201 seats booked, the planner clocks itself and shows the pax numbers as 1! This fact was missed by (very green) dispatch and the crew, and was only picked up as fuel numbers were rechecked prior to going over the Bite. Whoops, not enough fuel, gotta divert.
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