Defence ordered to slash $10bn
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Defence Savings!!
Now all the projected savings will enable Rudd to fund the old Labor favourite
"Artists and Poets-in-Residence" at every capital city's Trades Hall!!
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"Artists and Poets-in-Residence" at every capital city's Trades Hall!!
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It's beyond me how the nation voted the d1ckhead in. Given that JW was running amok but anything is better than Rudd. All any party has to do is stand up and they'll flog the clown at the next election. Tis a sad reflection on the state of the nation.
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In your partisan diatribe, you fail to mention Seasprites! All of the pitiful savings mention by Brendan Nelson are a factor of 10 less than the monumental srew up that was the Seasprite project. Nor do mention other blunders like the inability to shift enough combat troops to Dili in 1999 (3 years after taking office)... Ain't politics grand.
Milton Freidman; was an advocate of smaller government, Conscription was un-economic, wanted to get rid of the Reserve Bank and pushed for the legalisation of weed. He was a truly great economist and probably the most influencial person in the last Century - so how is it you think the last lot aligned with his philosophy???
In your partisan diatribe, you fail to mention Seasprites! All of the pitiful savings mention by Brendan Nelson are a factor of 10 less than the monumental srew up that was the Seasprite project. Nor do mention other blunders like the inability to shift enough combat troops to Dili in 1999 (3 years after taking office)... Ain't politics grand.
Milton Freidman; was an advocate of smaller government, Conscription was un-economic, wanted to get rid of the Reserve Bank and pushed for the legalisation of weed. He was a truly great economist and probably the most influencial person in the last Century - so how is it you think the last lot aligned with his philosophy???
Selctive Memory Maybe
Got to love the duality here Mr Frozo!
So when "The Last Government" did it - its only bad if it wasn't a Government of your persuasion... I suggest you re-read your posts.
Interfet... Think back... Think... Remember the fallout from only having just enough troops to do a lousy 3000 person deployment internationally - then started the belated big spend by the warrior prime minister, Howard. Check Hansard...
You still didn't respond to how Freidman was honoured by the last lot!
Don't take this as support from me for the Crudd Government - they lost me on copying the vote grabbing tax cuts during a forecasted inflationary expansion.
Like all Governments - First term for screwups, Second term for good stuff, third term for decline.
So when "The Last Government" did it - its only bad if it wasn't a Government of your persuasion... I suggest you re-read your posts.
Interfet... Think back... Think... Remember the fallout from only having just enough troops to do a lousy 3000 person deployment internationally - then started the belated big spend by the warrior prime minister, Howard. Check Hansard...
You still didn't respond to how Freidman was honoured by the last lot!
Don't take this as support from me for the Crudd Government - they lost me on copying the vote grabbing tax cuts during a forecasted inflationary expansion.
Like all Governments - First term for screwups, Second term for good stuff, third term for decline.
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Major cockups with weapons systems for the Navy preceded the Seasprites, When the FFGs first arrived from the US, there was no helo in the RAN inventory to put on them (robbing the ship of a, if not the major part of its ASW capabilities). The fix the Navy put into place was classic - they flew a Kiowa out from Nowra to bung on the helideck as each new FFG steamed into Sydney Harbour and the Oz medjia and public didn't know (or care) any better.
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While you are having a go at Nelson, have you forgotten that Bomber Beazley bought subs that sounded like tractors underwater. Now there's a smart move
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So anyway, getting back to the thread. In the spare nanosecond I had today I thought I would read the Defence wide email from the secretary for defence as I needed a good laugh. Was amused to see that he suggested we could save money by:
turning off lights;
printing double sided;
only using one piece of toilet paper etc...
and......
FLY LESS!
WTF!
turning off lights;
printing double sided;
only using one piece of toilet paper etc...
and......
FLY LESS!
WTF!
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"My vision for the future of Australia". Quote Keven RUDD
It just doesn't include the military, home ownership, electricity, petrol or anything you might actually need.
http://getup.org.au/promisewatch/
It just doesn't include the military, home ownership, electricity, petrol or anything you might actually need.
http://getup.org.au/promisewatch/
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A related rumour I've seen & heard is that Brother # 1 Commissar Rudd Brother Doctor Dada told some of the blokes who have black tape over their eyes that Campbell Barracks (that's beachside Swanbourne in Perth) was too valuable to remain in defence hands.
So Campbell Barracks closed and redeveloped and the [sssshh] Regt moved to where? Bindoon? That'll do retention a world of good ..... imagine the joy: "Darling I've got good news and bad news - the good news is I'm in and you'll only see me for 2 months a year; the bad news is you'd better get used to ticks and no mobile phone coverage 'cos we're moving to Bindoon".
Maybe it's just a rumour and they're moving to Cultana instead
Don't blame me - I didn't vote ALP
So Campbell Barracks closed and redeveloped and the [sssshh] Regt moved to where? Bindoon? That'll do retention a world of good ..... imagine the joy: "Darling I've got good news and bad news - the good news is I'm in and you'll only see me for 2 months a year; the bad news is you'd better get used to ticks and no mobile phone coverage 'cos we're moving to Bindoon".
Maybe it's just a rumour and they're moving to Cultana instead
Don't blame me - I didn't vote ALP
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Interesting I didn't know the Bs were planning that one. That would be a huge slap in the face for a regiment that has done so much good in recent times.
Navy seems to have done well over the years to hang on to arguably the most pristine real estate in the country.
Navy seems to have done well over the years to hang on to arguably the most pristine real estate in the country.
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Value
A 300 square metre block will be worth about 1 million dollars in that location.
Just tell me how many housing blocks of that size you'll get from Campbell barracks and then you'll have the real estimate of its worth.
Just tell me how many housing blocks of that size you'll get from Campbell barracks and then you'll have the real estimate of its worth.
While you are having a go at Nelson, have you forgotten that Bomber Beazley bought subs that sounded like tractors underwater. Now there's a smart move
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Tibbsy, perhaps you should read a copy of problems of the "Collins class Sub" after the first left ADL. To say it was a heap of S$%# was putting it mildly. In fact they had to call in the yanks to get things sorted out. Did I say tractor under water, I will amend that, try Harvester. And that from the mouths of her crew. Now she ok,but sadly lacks enough crews to use them to their full potential. (you just wanna hope the Kiwis never get nasty)!!
Teresa, the Collins class subs did have some serious teething problems but they have now matured into world class subs. The early problems were heavily embellished in the press because the "surface Navy" types (who leaked all the information) were hell bent on ensuring that the two optional additional subs (No's 7 & 8) in the original contract, were not built. If the options had been taken up, they were concerned that there would be less money available to build more "floating gin palaces" for them to strut around in.
To a submariner, there are only two types of vessels:- submarines and targets!
To a submariner, there are only two types of vessels:- submarines and targets!
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If you wanted to procure a submarine, surely you would approach the Americans, Germans, or Brits, with an history of construction. Why would you purchase the Collins, an "on paper" design from a small neutral country, which hadn't even built that particular vessel?
It's a good thing we don't have a space program, it would probably be bought from Nigeria, second hand.
It's a good thing we don't have a space program, it would probably be bought from Nigeria, second hand.