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Merged: QANTASLINK Crewing Crisis!

Old 10th Jun 2008, 01:46
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That would of been the $1000 cash plus $1000 worth of shares paid last year as a bonus. There is no guarantee that this will be paid this year so a bit of false advertising from QL. You have to hold onto the shares for 3 years if I remember correctly before you can sell them.

The $1000 worth of shares are now worth closer to $500 at todays share price.

Also beware of the retention bonus. You have to be employed for 2 years before you are eligible and the scheme ends at the end of December 2010.

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Old 10th Jun 2008, 02:14
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Any company which includes super in its salary figure is admitting that its too low!
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 04:11
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10 years later this thread is on point.
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 05:43
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It would appear this is correct. Despite loud protests from the usual protagonists, Qantas and their 'stream leader' are using the established narrative of 'shortage' of qualified applicants at Jetconnect and Network Aviation to craft a narrative of structural supply. It would take someone of extremely nearsightedness or indeed nefarious motivation to to not see where this leads. This will include skilled shortage visa extensions on Qantas 737.

Qantas management will do everything to preserve the labour unit cost where it is. "Parking aircraft" is all part of the kabuki theatre.

Interested readers may want to consider the Public Service Obligations and ask themselves if Qantas link regional services would fit the definition under Essential Services Legislation Act 1988 No 4 Part 1 (Preliminary)
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 06:54
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Please tell me that the rumour that the Stream Leader Pilot Recruitment for Qantas is an ex AIPA President is wrong ?
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 07:48
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Wrong title. That’s not his job.

‘Qantas Group Pilot Program, Stream Lead’.

Not as much to it as many have been implying. I’ve made previous comments about both the role and the individual.

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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 09:05
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What’s your stand on 457 visas Keg as a stop gap measure for Qantas managements IR policies that have led to the recruiting predicament they now find themselves in ?
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 12:03
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Interesting question. A few parts to it.

1. Are we going to need 457s for mainline? Wouldn’t have thought so. We have a training capacity issue, not a lack of suitable pilots/ applicants issue. Qantas were warned about the training capacity issue as early as late 2013 and then multiple times through 2014 in the lead up to the 767 RIN.

2. Any 457 visa holder is likely to take just as long to recruit, train and check to line as a current pilot..... in a system that has no excess training capacity to train/check them anyway.

3. I can’t see the government approving 457s for mainline when we have plenty of applicants and plenty of pilots (currently). They’ll rightly ask why we aren’t simply promoting internally.

4. So I’m not expending too much energy jumping at shadows even if I had the spare capacity/ brain power to do so- that’s part of the reason I pay union dues.
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 12:20
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Does anyone have any credible shred of evidence that Qantas is seeking 457 visas for mainline pilots apart form RatedDe's irresponsible use of terms like "we are hearing" and "our sources" say?

Didn't think so.

Will RatedDe appear here to apologize for this scaremongering when it becomes clear that no such application has been made?
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 13:42
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Originally Posted by RealityCzech
Qantas is seeking 457 visas for mainline

No point at all anyway if they're going to keep their requirement to hold a CASA license before even appplying.
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 14:50
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In my career over many years, I've met many Australian pilots flying for carriers all over the world. Why should there be a restriction on foreign pilots in Australia? Seems a bit odd.
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 20:30
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I don't think Qlink drivers necessarily object to 457 pilots in general, especially sim instructors.

What is concerning, is that the company will use this as a way to employ DECs. The current command requirements stipulate, regardless of prior experience (even on DHC8) you need a certain amount of company time.

What I believe the company intend on doing, is hiring a bunch of experienced DHC8 Captains as FOs, then removing the company time requirement (in lieu of DH8 time) to enable them to be upgraded instantly ahead of all current FOs.

And what happens in 1/2/3 years when the shortage grinds to a halt?
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 22:06
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When 457 visas (or the equivalent) are mentioned, I wonder from which untapped pool the company imagines these pilots will come?

I expect that there would be quite a few interested South Africans, but where else is there a surplus of young regional pilots?
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 22:07
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I don’t think Australia is much of a draw card anymore with its ridiculous house prices , taxes and 3rd world infrastructure , just getting to work is a chore these days !
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 22:09
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What does a DHC-8 captain make (for comparison purposes)
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 22:20
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This all started just over 3 years ago when management decided to try and shaft the classic pilots by telling them all that they had to apply for their positions again and to expect demotions and forced relocations as part of Qlink’s contribution to the groups ‘transformation’, without any regard to seniority or consultation with the union. All of this was based on an inaccurate calculation made by some ‘tard in Sydney who was shifted onto a different part of the business whilst the rest of us were forced to pickup the pieces of those that went elsewhere instead of being demoted, went on long term sick leave to keep their captain pay for as long as possible and those that lost any interest in helping the company out. Pretty soon the crew numbers were totally wrong with the CP scrambling to make excuses for workfarce plannings huge mistake. The fact that the current shortage is further hurting the company is quite amusing to some with a lot of pilots looking elsewhere to further their careers, captains who want to get out before they have to fly with ‘trainees’ and a general lack of moral around the place.

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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 05:10
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They wouldn't need a 457 visa for more than a few very experienced pilots in the M/E who would be happy to take a D8 Command in BNE and not be looking to run away to a jet job at the first opportunity ie long term employment stability for the company. That is assuming there are no upgradeable F/O's of course.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 08:40
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Perhaps so. But all it would take is for EK to allow basings or reverse rostering and that source would dry up instantly.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 09:09
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I think it’ll be a while before there’s any DEC in BNE. There’s plenty of F/O’s who still meet the requirements.

ADL on the other hand...
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 12:21
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And here i am on the hold for 18months with 2000hrs plus multi time. Hearing that they are now taking LVL 1&2 trainees. Go figure. No one wants to sit around waiting that long. Taken on other job in mean time. Will be interesting if they ring. If at all. I'm wondering how many people there are with hours like myself.
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