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For how long?
PNG Post Courier Friday 4 April.(Also reported Weekend Australian)
K2m to stop us being cut off
PAPUA New Guinea faces a major disaster, a threat from outside. And it’s all our own fault!
Our air links to the rest of the world are at risk.
International civil aviation authorities are to visit us next month and if they are not satisfied with our accounting for airline crashes, they can pull the plug on our flights to and from other countries.
This is the dilemma facing us and it could all fall apart in the next month or two.
Our exclusive report today shows Transport authorities have been begging the Government for money to avoid this disaster but no answers have been received.
All Transport needs is a bit more than K2 million, to send investigators to the sites of 19 plane crashes that have piled up for the past seven years.
Without that commitment, Transport has been staving off action by the international body year after year.
Now, the time of reckoning is near.
We have less than a month to show the International Civil Aviation Organisation that we are serious about accounting for our plane crashes and that we are keeping our standards up to the mark, internationally.
Not only is it a matter of keeping world authorities happy with our aviation standards, it is an issue of keeping bereaved relatives of victims of those plane crashes satisfied that all has been done to investigate.
For many, insurance payouts of compensation have been kept hanging. Insurance companies are notoriously reluctant to dish out payments unless they are satisfied with the findings of fault with accidents.
Their stockholders ensure that they do not drop their standards and that they only pay out once the causes of the accidents are verified and responsibility laid where it belongs.
Internationally, Papua New Guinea could be cut off.
How would our leaders like it if they were unable to travel to any other country in the world? What if they fell ill and wanted to fly to Brisbane or Kuala Lumpur or other centre for expert medical attention, as is commonly done?
If the ICAO barred our international flights, where would we be?
We would find our borders closed, in effect, like a Zimbabwe, without having a Robert Mugabe to blame.
All for the want of K2.3 million to satisfy international standards and to enable grieving relatives to get their compensation payments. Can one of the MPs slice K2.3 million of the K10 million district grant and sort it out immediately?
PNG Post Courier Friday 4 April.(Also reported Weekend Australian)
K2m to stop us being cut off
PAPUA New Guinea faces a major disaster, a threat from outside. And it’s all our own fault!
Our air links to the rest of the world are at risk.
International civil aviation authorities are to visit us next month and if they are not satisfied with our accounting for airline crashes, they can pull the plug on our flights to and from other countries.
This is the dilemma facing us and it could all fall apart in the next month or two.
Our exclusive report today shows Transport authorities have been begging the Government for money to avoid this disaster but no answers have been received.
All Transport needs is a bit more than K2 million, to send investigators to the sites of 19 plane crashes that have piled up for the past seven years.
Without that commitment, Transport has been staving off action by the international body year after year.
Now, the time of reckoning is near.
We have less than a month to show the International Civil Aviation Organisation that we are serious about accounting for our plane crashes and that we are keeping our standards up to the mark, internationally.
Not only is it a matter of keeping world authorities happy with our aviation standards, it is an issue of keeping bereaved relatives of victims of those plane crashes satisfied that all has been done to investigate.
For many, insurance payouts of compensation have been kept hanging. Insurance companies are notoriously reluctant to dish out payments unless they are satisfied with the findings of fault with accidents.
Their stockholders ensure that they do not drop their standards and that they only pay out once the causes of the accidents are verified and responsibility laid where it belongs.
Internationally, Papua New Guinea could be cut off.
How would our leaders like it if they were unable to travel to any other country in the world? What if they fell ill and wanted to fly to Brisbane or Kuala Lumpur or other centre for expert medical attention, as is commonly done?
If the ICAO barred our international flights, where would we be?
We would find our borders closed, in effect, like a Zimbabwe, without having a Robert Mugabe to blame.
All for the want of K2.3 million to satisfy international standards and to enable grieving relatives to get their compensation payments. Can one of the MPs slice K2.3 million of the K10 million district grant and sort it out immediately?
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Maybe this was the April Fool's Joke.
The B757 was scheduled for PX004 today but was stuck in HKG. THey then scheduled the A310 and the Captain went sick. So they then allotted one F100 to do BNE-POM and of course the 120 odd Pax would not fit and as I was on an FOC, I definitely did not fit.
It was a supreme Air Niugini moment.....
The B757 was scheduled for PX004 today but was stuck in HKG. THey then scheduled the A310 and the Captain went sick. So they then allotted one F100 to do BNE-POM and of course the 120 odd Pax would not fit and as I was on an FOC, I definitely did not fit.
It was a supreme Air Niugini moment.....
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Sharpie, are you a citizen these days? Maybe not for much longer if you are seen to criticise the government.
I would have thought with your experience and track record you could establish the guilty parties in all outstanding investigations for a lot less than K2.3 mil.
What, jumpseat not available for Sharpie?
I would have thought with your experience and track record you could establish the guilty parties in all outstanding investigations for a lot less than K2.3 mil.
What, jumpseat not available for Sharpie?
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About time someone is going to do something about giving Sid some funds to investigate some of the accidents. There are still a lot of accident investigations left open due to the fact that the investigators can't get to the crash sight due to a lack of funding.
Worrying thing is that some of these accidents may have been caused by mechanical failures that could occur in the future if not known about,especially when operating aging aircraft. The travelling public deserve the right to feel safe when they fly in PNG skies.
Another area they want to overhaul urgently is ATC and flight service. If they can't overhaul the system,shut the whole thing down and operate on company SAR's and pilot to pilot traffic avoidance/communication.
Worrying thing is that some of these accidents may have been caused by mechanical failures that could occur in the future if not known about,especially when operating aging aircraft. The travelling public deserve the right to feel safe when they fly in PNG skies.
Another area they want to overhaul urgently is ATC and flight service. If they can't overhaul the system,shut the whole thing down and operate on company SAR's and pilot to pilot traffic avoidance/communication.
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Hi Turbtool.
In answer to your first question. No I am not and in respect to the second comment, as my good pal Quixote said, “Que sera sera!
As you can see by my username, for many years if I wanted to say something, I invariably put my hand up to be counted not hiding behind a nom de plume, or false address. So be it.
As far as trying to unravel the reasons why or causes of all the prangs over the past ten or so years, I would not even try. I have no inclination to and will leave that duty to those who are employed to do so. As far as a shortage of funds, I recall a DAS years ago who would charter aircraft, buy tickets and gear as necessary on his credit card to complete an investigation. That shows dedication for a public servant above and beyond the call of duty!. Never got a ‘gong’ maybe never got too many thanks either; just went his merry way to try and find the truth and facts as to what caused a prang.
I do believe that one primary object of accident/incident investigation is not to apportion blame against an individual(s) unless suicide is involved, but to try and find the facts so that hopefully, occurrences of a similar nature may be reduced in the future. Sadly, even with many years of CRM training since the good old TAA ATM days, we still read of over-runs, undershoots, CFIT, plus many others.
It does appear that even today when the holes line-up in the Swiss cheese, the inevitable may happen. When the wreckage come to rest, the fault may not rest with those in the sharp end, but may started years before due non-standard sops by a multitude of people.
Hi Turbtool.
In answer to your first question. No I am not and in respect to the second comment, as my good pal Quixote said, “Que sera sera!
As you can see by my username, for many years if I wanted to say something, I invariably put my hand up to be counted not hiding behind a nom de plume, or false address. So be it.
As far as trying to unravel the reasons why or causes of all the prangs over the past ten or so years, I would not even try. I have no inclination to and will leave that duty to those who are employed to do so. As far as a shortage of funds, I recall a DAS years ago who would charter aircraft, buy tickets and gear as necessary on his credit card to complete an investigation. That shows dedication for a public servant above and beyond the call of duty!. Never got a ‘gong’ maybe never got too many thanks either; just went his merry way to try and find the truth and facts as to what caused a prang.
I do believe that one primary object of accident/incident investigation is not to apportion blame against an individual(s) unless suicide is involved, but to try and find the facts so that hopefully, occurrences of a similar nature may be reduced in the future. Sadly, even with many years of CRM training since the good old TAA ATM days, we still read of over-runs, undershoots, CFIT, plus many others.
It does appear that even today when the holes line-up in the Swiss cheese, the inevitable may happen. When the wreckage come to rest, the fault may not rest with those in the sharp end, but may started years before due non-standard sops by a multitude of people.
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Hi Guys
What's the chance of getting a job driving the 757 & 767. I am a current Capt on both and would be interested in joining Air Niugini. I have even flown a Icelandair 757 in the past! Can't find an email address to send a CV to any ideas? The web site has a snail mail address only.
What's the chance of getting a job driving the 757 & 767. I am a current Capt on both and would be interested in joining Air Niugini. I have even flown a Icelandair 757 in the past! Can't find an email address to send a CV to any ideas? The web site has a snail mail address only.
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Buckly's and no chance getting in direct entry on the 757 (or 767 if PX ever get one again 
). You simply won't get a lookin based on seniority, unless you are a PNG national but even then you would be very very lucky to even be considered unless you are a wantok of someone high up in managment. Even know the airline has a shortage of crews, they are filling the 757 openings from within.
On the other hand if you want to fly a Dash 8 or a Fokker 100, apply. All applications nowdays have to go through the HR department I believe.
). You simply won't get a lookin based on seniority, unless you are a PNG national but even then you would be very very lucky to even be considered unless you are a wantok of someone high up in managment. Even know the airline has a shortage of crews, they are filling the 757 openings from within. On the other hand if you want to fly a Dash 8 or a Fokker 100, apply. All applications nowdays have to go through the HR department I believe.
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Friday the 18th
BTW everyone...back on topic...
The E190 had some issues with getting certification from CASA, which has finally been done now. Looks as though it should be in operation on Friday the 18th...Time will tell.
EDIT: Apparently there were NO issues with the E190 getting certification from CASA as SkyAirWorld already had full CASA approval. What ever the reason... first revenue flight is anticipated on the 18th.
The E190 had some issues with getting certification from CASA, which has finally been done now. Looks as though it should be in operation on Friday the 18th...Time will tell.
EDIT: Apparently there were NO issues with the E190 getting certification from CASA as SkyAirWorld already had full CASA approval. What ever the reason... first revenue flight is anticipated on the 18th.
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Many thanks NewZealand2 Great help. Not easy to find qualified B757 Drivers these days. Do PX have a 767 yet?
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Not hiding Sharpie, I just think the philosophy of pprune is diminished by posting under real names. In my opinion there are better places for that. If you set yourself up as a target I don't think you should be all wounded if someone takes a little dig at you in jest, when you continued and expanded the thread creep. But “Que sera sera!"
Thank you for sharing you view and I must say I share your stated belief of the true aim of investigations. The Tokua incident does spring to mind though with many, including as I understand, the regulator's investigator, not satisfied by the finding of the company investigation of the time.
I think the E190 will be a great addition to the PX operation.
Thank you for sharing you view and I must say I share your stated belief of the true aim of investigations. The Tokua incident does spring to mind though with many, including as I understand, the regulator's investigator, not satisfied by the finding of the company investigation of the time.
I think the E190 will be a great addition to the PX operation.
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Turbotool.
Que sera sera remains.
Whatever the regulating body (or their spokesperson) says, to the best of my knowledge they did not provide the operating company their own version or results of their detailed investigation and I stand by the document presented to the operator's Board of Directors.
pleasant safe flying.
(have a read of Troppo in D&General&Aviation.)
Que sera sera remains.
Whatever the regulating body (or their spokesperson) says, to the best of my knowledge they did not provide the operating company their own version or results of their detailed investigation and I stand by the document presented to the operator's Board of Directors.
pleasant safe flying.
(have a read of Troppo in D&General&Aviation.)
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TF-LLA arriving in POM on the 28th of April, and entering service on the 3rd of May. It will be registered on the P2 register.
The E190 will be operating tomorrow.
NZ2.
The E190 will be operating tomorrow.
NZ2.