Mega Merged: AsA ATC staffing levels
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Love to know where you have heard that gem. It certainly isn't as an ATC. An ATC Instructor in Luxembourg is definitely an option (they are screaming out for people ) but not in Maastricht. We still have around 100 on the waiting list from the first recruitment drive.
have been hearing rumours that Eurocontrol may be recruiting towards the end of the year
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Is it true that the AsA Academy has lost its status as a Registered Training Organisation (RTO) by failing its last Australian Quality Training Framework (AQTF) audit?
Is the academy actually permitted to graduate people at the moment?
How's the boost in training throughput going to be affected?
Is the academy actually permitted to graduate people at the moment?
How's the boost in training throughput going to be affected?
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Airservices is definitely still an RTO, and listed in the RTO database: see http://www.ntis.gov.au/Default.aspx?/rto/5168
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Airservices is definitely still an RTO, and listed in the RTO database:
I thought my 'source' was pretty strong, however, it appears that the rumour has been 'busted'...
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How's the service in and out of Sydney these days?
Staff numbers slashed by 20% while traffic levels increased by 25%.
No wonder we're getting all these airspace closures. Seems like something's gotta give!
Staff numbers slashed by 20% while traffic levels increased by 25%.
No wonder we're getting all these airspace closures. Seems like something's gotta give!
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Hey Harvey,
I have to admit I have known a few .6 controllers in my time but who was the poor shmuck who was the .1 controller in Sydney in June 2005!
Anyone wanting to get some sand between their toes PM me we are about 20 short here currently and it might be an idea to beat the rush come January 1, 2009. Good luck all.
I have to admit I have known a few .6 controllers in my time but who was the poor shmuck who was the .1 controller in Sydney in June 2005!
Anyone wanting to get some sand between their toes PM me we are about 20 short here currently and it might be an idea to beat the rush come January 1, 2009. Good luck all.
Heard some information about staffing levels in one ATC Group the other day. Their roster is being published in 3 weeks blocks at a time (so easy to organise one's life with 3 weeks notice....).
Anyway, in the next 3 week block there are over 30 blank shifts........on a 17-person group! That means, without sick leave or special/family leave popping up, each controller will have to work an average of 2 overtime shifts each JUST TO KEEP THE PLACE RUNNING. I fail to see how sick leave is the root cause if there are so many shifts blank when the roster is first written.
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Showa-Cho.
Anyway, in the next 3 week block there are over 30 blank shifts........on a 17-person group! That means, without sick leave or special/family leave popping up, each controller will have to work an average of 2 overtime shifts each JUST TO KEEP THE PLACE RUNNING. I fail to see how sick leave is the root cause if there are so many shifts blank when the roster is first written.
Thanks,
Showa-Cho.
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.....just keep posting no for yourself in every other thread in which you have asked the same question.
AsA could be looking for controllers - but not you.
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.....just keep posting no for yourself in every other thread in which you have asked the same question.
AsA could be looking for controllers - but not you.
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https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications.../ao-2022-065-1
Nothing to see here. Everyone is well rested and rosters are great. Crew and Pax lives' definitely aren't at risk purely because of Airservices profit making objectives.
Nothing to see here. Everyone is well rested and rosters are great. Crew and Pax lives' definitely aren't at risk purely because of Airservices profit making objectives.
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications.../ao-2022-065-1
Nothing to see here. Everyone is well rested and rosters are great. Crew and Pax lives' definitely aren't at risk purely because of Airservices profit making objectives.
Nothing to see here. Everyone is well rested and rosters are great. Crew and Pax lives' definitely aren't at risk purely because of Airservices profit making objectives.
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The Australian Civil ATC system is based on controllers (and other support staff) working inordinate amounts of Overtime. AsA are understaffed for normal operations and chronologically understaffed at other times. FOI request for Overtime hours would be revealing.
Nope, they have no shame.
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications.../ao-2022-065-1
This has to be a joke?
IIRC this was a nightly occurrence after the geniuses decided to go to one person night shifts many years ago. It was only the snoring that kept the people actually working the traffic awake!
This has to be a joke?
IIRC this was a nightly occurrence after the geniuses decided to go to one person night shifts many years ago. It was only the snoring that kept the people actually working the traffic awake!
No Minesweeper or Solitaire on TAAATS? But it does have a screensaver, thank goodness!
C'mon. There's no risk to the safety of air navigation, so who cares?
[QUOTE=BlackPanther;11353117]https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications.../ao-2022-065-1[/QUOTE}
. There was plenty to in Melbourne Centre about 10 years, reported to ATC and Safety Management and nothing was done/
Sarcasm (the use of irony to mock or convey contempt).To answer, no and deteorating, poor roster designs, squeezing more shifts out of ATCs to cover shortfalls.
Sarcasm (the use of irony to mock or convey contempt).
BTW, AsA Act needs to change.
It will be interesting to know whether this individual had work a morning shift followed by the night shift, and what the sequence of shifts was worked prior and whether there was an elevated fatigue potential for this particular shift and what the individual mitigators for this particular shift were and how were they applied for this particular shift (and by whom). Maybe FOI how many controllers on that shift had an elevated fatigue potential.
. There was plenty to in Melbourne Centre about 10 years, reported to ATC and Safety Management and nothing was done/
Sarcasm (the use of irony to mock or convey contempt).To answer, no and deteorating, poor roster designs, squeezing more shifts out of ATCs to cover shortfalls.
BTW, AsA Act needs to change.
It will be interesting to know whether this individual had work a morning shift followed by the night shift, and what the sequence of shifts was worked prior and whether there was an elevated fatigue potential for this particular shift and what the individual mitigators for this particular shift were and how were they applied for this particular shift (and by whom). Maybe FOI how many controllers on that shift had an elevated fatigue potential.
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The podcast Shandee's Story started out a (riveting) cold case investigation, it evolved into an investigation into Queensland Forensic and Scientific Services lab. I'm tipping there'll be criminal charges laid on the highest levels of management. The management got away with lying to the coppers and government ministers basically because they didn't have a clue how to decipher the bull**** that was being fed down to them. Same goes at Airservices Australia, it's a matter of time. If every government minister in this country isn't taking lessons from this saga, they're a fool.
'Shortly after, a supervisor checked the screens"....obviously didn't want to wake him.