Rex and the Media Release
In relation to the Command time issue, if you read the FAQs you will be cadets in the 'REX group', thus this means at sometime they may place you with any of the sub companies which is perhaps where your 200 odd hours of 'command' time may come from.
Interesting to see the minimums at a certain operator in Scotland;
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Im sure the weather there is great for flying with wide open airspace!
Also if REX does colapse and can no longer be the training ground for VB and J* and the like where are they going to get thier pilots from, are there going to be 180 hr cadets RHS in an Embraer going to regional destinations?
Captains
We are currently looking for Direct Entry Captains to join our growing SAAB 340 Fleet
Courses start in Mid December and January 2008.
Application are invited online from pilots with UK or JAR ATPL(A), or Type Rated pilots with Licences that may be converted. Applicants should have a current multi engine IR and a Minimum of 1,500 hours total flying time, including 500-hrs on multi-pilot types.
A valid MCC Certificate or exemptions are also necessary.
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First Officers
UK or JAR Frozen ATPL(A) With current multi engine IR.
35 hours as pilot of aeroplanes during 12 months prior to application. Valid MCC Certificate or exemptions.
Im sure the weather there is great for flying with wide open airspace!
Also if REX does colapse and can no longer be the training ground for VB and J* and the like where are they going to get thier pilots from, are there going to be 180 hr cadets RHS in an Embraer going to regional destinations?
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In relation to the Command time issue, if you read the FAQs you will be cadets in the 'REX group', thus this means at sometime they may place you with any of the sub companies which is perhaps where your 200 odd hours of 'command' time may come from.
There are no free lunches, get off your backside, work hard in your first few jobs and then reap the rewards in later life.
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I fear that Rex may have read the situation totally incorrectly by not hiring, paying more, upgrading T & Cs etc.
What's going to happen when the regional jets (VB, Airnorth, Sky Air World etc) start operating services to ports previously serviced by Rex and other regional operators? Rex simply won't need the drivers any more so I'd think very, very carefully before selling your souls into bondage with an outfit that simply hasn't looked ater its staff in an appropriate manner, despite increasing profits.
What's going to happen when the regional jets (VB, Airnorth, Sky Air World etc) start operating services to ports previously serviced by Rex and other regional operators? Rex simply won't need the drivers any more so I'd think very, very carefully before selling your souls into bondage with an outfit that simply hasn't looked ater its staff in an appropriate manner, despite increasing profits.
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Heard on a local radio news bulletin that covers Western NSW at 7am this morning, that REX have called a press conference for this morning.Subject? Pilot shortages. No other details at that stage, and haven't heard anything since.
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The last slide of that download is classic.
Titled: "Reasons for resignations"
Not sure "Reasons" is the correct word for the title when the pie chart references various airlines.
How does the slice titled "other" fit into this slide?
I would have thought, the slices should have been titled such "reasons" as...
Pay
Lifestyle
Personal
Retirement
Loss of Medical
Career Change........amongst others.
A company is not a reason to resign. What a company might offer IS.
Weird certainly, but I guess not unexpected from spin-doctors and those idiots who love making these little slide shows for their presentations. Pretty.
Titled: "Reasons for resignations"
Not sure "Reasons" is the correct word for the title when the pie chart references various airlines.
How does the slice titled "other" fit into this slide?
I would have thought, the slices should have been titled such "reasons" as...
Pay
Lifestyle
Personal
Retirement
Loss of Medical
Career Change........amongst others.
A company is not a reason to resign. What a company might offer IS.
Weird certainly, but I guess not unexpected from spin-doctors and those idiots who love making these little slide shows for their presentations. Pretty.
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3rd on the list of 'reasons' for leaving is 'other'.
Is that other reasons?
Or other airlines?
Nice graphs by the way.
What about a graph that shows a comparison between payscales of all the other carriers.
Let's put a few more in there and see what the graph of rate of increase in payscale over the last 10 years and see how pretty that looks.
etc etc
Is that other reasons?
Or other airlines?
Nice graphs by the way.
What about a graph that shows a comparison between payscales of all the other carriers.
Let's put a few more in there and see what the graph of rate of increase in payscale over the last 10 years and see how pretty that looks.
etc etc
What Road Map to Recovery....
It looked like a roundabout for them to go round and round in circles on, and just keep on blaming everyone else for their problems.
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Have a read of this
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...?site=riverina
It appears at least one politician has bitten off on what REX is selling.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...?site=riverina
It appears at least one politician has bitten off on what REX is selling.
Yes, I love the way that Jetstar, Qantas and Virgin Blue are "Reasons". Last time I checked they were airlines!!
It seems that REX is trying to say that it goes without saying that people will leave to go to the other airlines, without needing to answer the simple question, why?
It seems that REX is trying to say that it goes without saying that people will leave to go to the other airlines, without needing to answer the simple question, why?
WOW!!!
Until now I have just been watching the Rex threads from the sidelines with interest, but the chart on page 6 is just incredible. It shows that almost as many pilots have left between July and October this year as did for the previous 2 years combined. Additionally even at what looks like conservative figures for Rex's forward resignation projections, the annual resignations this financial year will equal 61.4% of their pilots. How can any airline afford to lose this kind of experience and expect to survive?
Would the last one to leave please turn the lights out!
Would the last one to leave please turn the lights out!
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Now, I was not very good at maths so please some correct me if i'm wrong..
According to the graph 69 people have left and they have replaced them with 67 others.......
How does this equate to a shortage, and how come they have cancelled so many flights?????
I think they have printed numbers to fool the mums and dads who have shares so they don't panic and sell them......(I believe there could be a law against that!!!)
Anyway time will tell....
According to the graph 69 people have left and they have replaced them with 67 others.......
How does this equate to a shortage, and how come they have cancelled so many flights?????
I think they have printed numbers to fool the mums and dads who have shares so they don't panic and sell them......(I believe there could be a law against that!!!)
Anyway time will tell....
Oh great, now we see Rex cadets farmed out to Airlink and Pelair, surely that will see the end of direct entry pilots for Ailink and Pelair.
Are we going to see a situation develop where cadets are favoured over experianced drivers.
5 years ago I had not enough hours, now, It seems I have too many.
Are we going to see a situation develop where cadets are favoured over experianced drivers.
5 years ago I had not enough hours, now, It seems I have too many.
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wow 
rex are really trying hard to keep their investors by spining so much crap it just goes to show that wat i heard might be true,
my brother who works for a preety big company in sydney (not mentioning lol ) heard rumours of rex collapsing,apparently heaps of share holders and investors are slowly pulling out ,
i dont know if this is true. so dont start yelling and bagging me out lol.
rex are really trying hard to keep their investors by spining so much crap it just goes to show that wat i heard might be true,my brother who works for a preety big company in sydney (not mentioning lol ) heard rumours of rex collapsing,apparently heaps of share holders and investors are slowly pulling out ,
i dont know if this is true. so dont start yelling and bagging me out lol.
Is it time for a merged thread on REX?
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Good point! And it's more or less along the same lines as the point I've tried to make to aircraft in post #87 on page 5 of the 'Rex suspends maryborough services too' thread.
Mods.............any chance of merging the 'Rex and the Media Release','Rex recruiting..or lack of', and 'Rex suspends maryborough services too' threads, because they all seem to be taking the same direction?
Good point! And it's more or less along the same lines as the point I've tried to make to aircraft in post #87 on page 5 of the 'Rex suspends maryborough services too' thread.
Mods.............any chance of merging the 'Rex and the Media Release','Rex recruiting..or lack of', and 'Rex suspends maryborough services too' threads, because they all seem to be taking the same direction?
REX management complain of Poaching
Dictionary.com defines poaching as:
1. To trespass on another's property in order to take fish or game.
2. To take fish or game in a forbidden area.
3. To become muddy or broken up from being trampled. Used of land.
4. To sink into soft earth when walking.
5. 1. To take or appropriate something unfairly or illegally.
2. Sports To play a ball out of turn or in another's territory, as in doubles tennis.
So how REX can then complain that their pilots are being poached is beyond me. Free market economics cuts both ways. The pilot market has been in airlines favour from the inception of Kendall and Hazo's for the first time in any of these company's history they are running into a labour supply problem. To try and solve this issue by complaining that major airlines who pay DOUBLE what you are paying are "stealing" all your pilots is illogical. If you were the RAAF and the airlines were paying out bonds for the pilots that could be considered poaching however people who are attending interviews of their own free will are not being poached.
Funnily enough in the USA some regional airlines guarantee a certain percentage of their pilots will get into mainline!!
From the Australian November 9th 2007
1. To trespass on another's property in order to take fish or game.
2. To take fish or game in a forbidden area.
3. To become muddy or broken up from being trampled. Used of land.
4. To sink into soft earth when walking.
5. 1. To take or appropriate something unfairly or illegally.
2. Sports To play a ball out of turn or in another's territory, as in doubles tennis.
So how REX can then complain that their pilots are being poached is beyond me. Free market economics cuts both ways. The pilot market has been in airlines favour from the inception of Kendall and Hazo's for the first time in any of these company's history they are running into a labour supply problem. To try and solve this issue by complaining that major airlines who pay DOUBLE what you are paying are "stealing" all your pilots is illogical. If you were the RAAF and the airlines were paying out bonds for the pilots that could be considered poaching however people who are attending interviews of their own free will are not being poached.
Funnily enough in the USA some regional airlines guarantee a certain percentage of their pilots will get into mainline!!
From the Australian November 9th 2007
REGIONAL Express has blamed poaching of pilots by low-cost airlines for the suspension of some of its air routes.
Rex deputy chairman John Sharp said the airline had been losing significant numbers of pilots to low-cost operators Virgin Blue and Jetstar.
"We would like to think that both Virgin Blue and Jetstar could do more to solve their pilot shortage problems than just raiding regional airlines," Mr Sharp said. Both Jetstar and Virgin Blue have hit back, saying they were not poaching, as pilots naturally wanted to move from a regional operation with turbo props to jets.
And those two airlines are also losing pilots to overseas airlines offering higher salary packages.
Rex announced the suspension of its Brisbane to Maryborough service on Monday, blaming pilot shortages.
That suspension followed a network review to identify the routes with the lowest load factors, and followed a similar initiative undertaken at Cooma for the off-season until May 18.
The airline has also been forced to cut a third of its flights between Sydney and Wagga Wagga until Christmas.
"The shortage of pilots has been described by Qantas' chief pilot Chris Manning as even more catastrophic than the collapse of Ansett," Rex managing director Geoff Breust said.
Speaking at the Regional Aviation Association of Australia Convention at Coolum last month, Captain Manning said the pilot shortage was the worst he had seen in "my 37 years at Qantas".
Rex sees its problem as only medium-term. It claims to have had 700 applicants for its pilot cadet scheme, with the first batch of 20 to start their 32 weeks of training at the Rex pilot academy on December 10. The airline has teamed with Mangalore Airport in a joint venture to create the Civil Aviation Training Academy.
The academy expects to accept up to 80 pilots in the first year, but has plans to increase the intake to 350 a year by the third or fourth year of operations.
The first few intakes will be reserved for cadets recruited under the Rex Pilot Cadet scheme, after which the Academy will accept private students as well as those sent from other airlines, both local and international.
Rex chief of staff Jim Davis said Australia would need "1800 over the next two years, but the supply of new Airline Transport Pilot Licences every year in Australia is less than 400".
Under the Rex pilot scheme, pilots will be sheltered from most of the $80,000 cost of the pilot training, in return for a five year commitment.
The airline is also pressuring Government to do more, by providing loans similar to those in tertiary institutions.
Rex deputy chairman John Sharp said the airline had been losing significant numbers of pilots to low-cost operators Virgin Blue and Jetstar.
"We would like to think that both Virgin Blue and Jetstar could do more to solve their pilot shortage problems than just raiding regional airlines," Mr Sharp said. Both Jetstar and Virgin Blue have hit back, saying they were not poaching, as pilots naturally wanted to move from a regional operation with turbo props to jets.
And those two airlines are also losing pilots to overseas airlines offering higher salary packages.
Rex announced the suspension of its Brisbane to Maryborough service on Monday, blaming pilot shortages.
That suspension followed a network review to identify the routes with the lowest load factors, and followed a similar initiative undertaken at Cooma for the off-season until May 18.
The airline has also been forced to cut a third of its flights between Sydney and Wagga Wagga until Christmas.
"The shortage of pilots has been described by Qantas' chief pilot Chris Manning as even more catastrophic than the collapse of Ansett," Rex managing director Geoff Breust said.
Speaking at the Regional Aviation Association of Australia Convention at Coolum last month, Captain Manning said the pilot shortage was the worst he had seen in "my 37 years at Qantas".
Rex sees its problem as only medium-term. It claims to have had 700 applicants for its pilot cadet scheme, with the first batch of 20 to start their 32 weeks of training at the Rex pilot academy on December 10. The airline has teamed with Mangalore Airport in a joint venture to create the Civil Aviation Training Academy.
The academy expects to accept up to 80 pilots in the first year, but has plans to increase the intake to 350 a year by the third or fourth year of operations.
The first few intakes will be reserved for cadets recruited under the Rex Pilot Cadet scheme, after which the Academy will accept private students as well as those sent from other airlines, both local and international.
Rex chief of staff Jim Davis said Australia would need "1800 over the next two years, but the supply of new Airline Transport Pilot Licences every year in Australia is less than 400".
Under the Rex pilot scheme, pilots will be sheltered from most of the $80,000 cost of the pilot training, in return for a five year commitment.
The airline is also pressuring Government to do more, by providing loans similar to those in tertiary institutions.