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The Chief pilot said this
yet the MD said this in the Australian
Get your story straight boys 
TRANSPORT Minister Mark Vaile’s spokesman’s final words
Looming shortages…………….shhhh……keep it down………you’ll get the pilots all fired up again. Now repeat after me – There is no shortage, there is no shortage.
At the Saturday meeting in Adelaide, attended by approximately 30+ Rex pilots, the Chief pilot stated that there was no shortage of pilot applications
Regional Express managing director Geoff Breust said he believed the industry was losing good people because funding was not available.
TRANSPORT Minister Mark Vaile’s spokesman’s final words
"Fixing the looming shortages won't be easy but the work the minister has under way at the moment will ensure the Australian community continues to have access to safe and affordable air transport."
Kavorka,
Wages stated are Base.
At the moment DTA is running at 8-9 K per year depending on where you are located.
It is conceivable that a new F/O could gross approx $50k in real terms. still inadequate when you consider what other professionals are earning in this country.
Wages stated are Base.
At the moment DTA is running at 8-9 K per year depending on where you are located.
It is conceivable that a new F/O could gross approx $50k in real terms. still inadequate when you consider what other professionals are earning in this country.
'n sick really....
Heard on the grapevine,
Four (4), yes four (4)! turned up in Perth.
3 didn't meet the mins, and when told what sort of income he could expect, the fourth declined the offer.
Apparently Darwin was even worse.
F#@king great waste of time and money.
Four (4), yes four (4)! turned up in Perth.
3 didn't meet the mins, and when told what sort of income he could expect, the fourth declined the offer.
Apparently Darwin was even worse.
F#@king great waste of time and money.
So the question is, will they now wake up and smell the coffee?
Rex (and others) management - if you're reading this,
CAN YOU DENY IT ANY LONGER, AND CONTINUE TO REFUSE TO SORT OUT PAY AND CONDITIONS?!
Rex (and others) management - if you're reading this,
CAN YOU DENY IT ANY LONGER, AND CONTINUE TO REFUSE TO SORT OUT PAY AND CONDITIONS?!
Counter-rotation said:
So what must they do to "sort out pay and conditions"? Give a significant pay rise? Or, keep the pay the same but change other conditions so as to improve the lifestyle?
Either way, it will cost the company a not insignificant amount of money. Where will that money come from?
You seem to think it is as simple as flicking a switch, or turning a dial, but making a significant change to the T&Cs is way way more than that.
I will ask you again: What must they do to sort out pay and conditions?
Rex (and others) management - if you're reading this,
CAN YOU DENY IT ANY LONGER, AND CONTINUE TO REFUSE TO SORT OUT PAY AND CONDITIONS?!
CAN YOU DENY IT ANY LONGER, AND CONTINUE TO REFUSE TO SORT OUT PAY AND CONDITIONS?!
Either way, it will cost the company a not insignificant amount of money. Where will that money come from?
You seem to think it is as simple as flicking a switch, or turning a dial, but making a significant change to the T&Cs is way way more than that.
I will ask you again: What must they do to sort out pay and conditions?
How about at least look like acknowledging the problem, that would be a start don't you think?
"At the Saturday meeting in Adelaide, attended by approximately 30+ Rex pilots, the Chief pilot stated that there was no shortage of pilot applications"
Didn't have time for a long post - I know it's not a switch flicking situation, but the state of denial - can it possibly continue?
CR
"At the Saturday meeting in Adelaide, attended by approximately 30+ Rex pilots, the Chief pilot stated that there was no shortage of pilot applications"
Didn't have time for a long post - I know it's not a switch flicking situation, but the state of denial - can it possibly continue?
CR
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So what must they do to "sort out pay and conditions"? Give a significant pay rise? Or, keep the pay the same but change other conditions so as to improve the lifestyle?
Either way, it will cost the company a not insignificant amount of money. Where will that money come from?
Krusty, how did 3 not meet the minimums? Did they only do the 160hr CPL course.
I can’t believe what lengths these silly managers and owners will go, in order to withhold from giving a pay rise, in spite of their business. Amateur hour incorporated! The only positive I can see from all this is a few more “not how to run a business” case studies for the commerce students.
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Company perspective: CAO48 allows us to work drivers THIS hard, so we will.
Even if it involves 6 days on, with 3 minimum rest back-to-back overnights, one day off, and another 3 min rest overnights... I was always tired. Oh yeh, and we were more often late into the overnight port because the Company can't get it's f*cking act together and pay for another BUS at peak times out of gate 47 in Sydney, but you're only half an hour late, right?
Pilots perspective: When I joined, I accepted the lower pay for a better lifestyle. For the first 6 months.
Now that "one hung low" is directing the puppet show from Singapore, and running me into the ground, why on earth would I stay and be tired all the time for half the money I can make elsewhere? Because the Company will look after me? Because it's one big "family Company" ? Good luck.
Get your shares and sell them... they are overpriced as it is.
Like other posts have eluded to, management have to make the big step to actually acknowledge there is a problem.
Even if it involves 6 days on, with 3 minimum rest back-to-back overnights, one day off, and another 3 min rest overnights... I was always tired. Oh yeh, and we were more often late into the overnight port because the Company can't get it's f*cking act together and pay for another BUS at peak times out of gate 47 in Sydney, but you're only half an hour late, right?
Pilots perspective: When I joined, I accepted the lower pay for a better lifestyle. For the first 6 months.
Now that "one hung low" is directing the puppet show from Singapore, and running me into the ground, why on earth would I stay and be tired all the time for half the money I can make elsewhere? Because the Company will look after me? Because it's one big "family Company" ? Good luck.
Get your shares and sell them... they are overpriced as it is.
Like other posts have eluded to, management have to make the big step to actually acknowledge there is a problem.
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Ukranian Pilots
I understand (well I've heard lots of rumours) that Rex is in the process of employing Ukranian pilots,
The roadshow may just have been to gather evidence to show the Government a need to import pilots.
The roadshow may just have been to gather evidence to show the Government a need to import pilots.
Erin Brockovich, you are spectacularly ignorant of the basics of business and the economics of commercial aviation.
This statement is an absolute clanger; and you say the management is "amateur hour"!
Have you considered just how big those pay rises would need to be? Would a measley $10K rise be enough? Somebody like Rex, if they really struggled, got very creative, possibly restructured a few things, might be able to manage this much of a pay rise. But would that be anywhere near enough?
No, nowhere near enough. That amount may cause a few individuals to think twice about moving on, but the overall effect on retention rates would be hard to measure. Salary increases of that magnitude would send all GA operators to the wall - and most small airlines.
To the question of where the money will come from, you say this:
This would largely defeat the purpose of being a shareholder. Shareholders are shareholders for the purpose of getting some sort of return on their investment.
To provide the sums of money necessary would require either an enormous one off payment, or smaller, ongoing injections of funds. This is the sort of thing big investors do, provided they can see that there will be returns that are even bigger.
This statement is an absolute clanger; and you say the management is "amateur hour"!
Big Big pay rise first; Big enough to attract and retain experienced quality crew.
No, nowhere near enough. That amount may cause a few individuals to think twice about moving on, but the overall effect on retention rates would be hard to measure. Salary increases of that magnitude would send all GA operators to the wall - and most small airlines.
To the question of where the money will come from, you say this:
How about from the not insignificant shareholders.
To provide the sums of money necessary would require either an enormous one off payment, or smaller, ongoing injections of funds. This is the sort of thing big investors do, provided they can see that there will be returns that are even bigger.
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There will be no shareholders if there's no airline!!
the roadshows produced a total of 13 pilots...GREAT WORK!!!
CH continually states that he will have his desk full of apps again soon, "Tell him his dreamn'"
There will be at least 40+ drivers leave before the years out with many more to follow......
Looking at recruiting req's for VB (20 new a/c), JQ (30 new a/c) Tiger (a least 5 with more to follow) and QF recruiting again (heavily) I do believe that rex mangement have to act now to stop the flow of exp captains wanting out because they are getting flogged to death!! (8 days off p/m month not enough!)
the roadshows produced a total of 13 pilots...GREAT WORK!!!
CH continually states that he will have his desk full of apps again soon, "Tell him his dreamn'"
There will be at least 40+ drivers leave before the years out with many more to follow......
Looking at recruiting req's for VB (20 new a/c), JQ (30 new a/c) Tiger (a least 5 with more to follow) and QF recruiting again (heavily) I do believe that rex mangement have to act now to stop the flow of exp captains wanting out because they are getting flogged to death!! (8 days off p/m month not enough!)
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Aircraft, I think it is you who is spectacularly ignorant of how much a ticket would need to rise in order to provide a satisfactory pay rise for tech crew... each crew member at Rex operates flights in one year that carry a total of around 10000pax, a $5/ticket increase divided between tech crew... you do the sums.
If this were paid in the form of overtime for work over 65 hrs per roster (as is commonplace in airlines around the world), the company would only be paying the increase when it is making good money from the crew by working them hard. Based on present rosters most of us are doing 20 hours more than this. It is a productivity payment, everyone wins. Keep trying to get 20 hours overtime out of crew for free and they will do the sums and leave, it is not brain surgery.
If this were paid in the form of overtime for work over 65 hrs per roster (as is commonplace in airlines around the world), the company would only be paying the increase when it is making good money from the crew by working them hard. Based on present rosters most of us are doing 20 hours more than this. It is a productivity payment, everyone wins. Keep trying to get 20 hours overtime out of crew for free and they will do the sums and leave, it is not brain surgery.
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Standard spiel
aircraft is a TROLL. Please do no feed the TROLL.
The sole intent of the TROLL'S post is to wind you up, you are punching a TAR BABY .
Posted by aircraft 7th September 2006
Why would you trust anything it posts?
The sole intent of the TROLL'S post is to wind you up, you are punching a TAR BABY .
What is Jetstar Asia? Please forgive my ignorance and fill me in. When will they start operating, what routes, what aircraft, etc.
Why would you trust anything it posts?
... each crew member at Rex operates flights in one year that carry a total of around 10000pax, a $5/ticket increase divided between tech crew... you do the sums.
As we begin our look at pricing theory, it is worth noting that, according to the theory of "optimal pricing", despite selling less tickets, you may actually make more net revenue. But also, depending on where the former price was, in terms of the optimal price, you may end up making less net revenue.
I present this theory to show that the notion that "greater prices equate to greater revenue" is simply not true. This theory (optimal pricing) simply states that, for a particular product in a particular market, there is one price that results in the maximum net revenue. Prices above that bring more revenue per item sold but the lower number of sales result in less revenue overall. Prices below the optimum result in more sales but the lower prices outweigh the greater sales to result in, again, less revenue overall - analagous to the optimum speed to fly for maximum range - fly faster or slower than the optimum and you will get less range.
To the question of how many less tickets will be sold for a given price increase, it is necessary to consider the "own-price elasticity of demand" for air travel. There have been studies done on this, and I must thank Pass-A-Frozo for locating one and posting this information in a recent thread.
There is this Canadian study, which examined short route air travel in NSW, and this Australian study, which looked simply at domestic air travel in Australia.
For the short route NSW study, the estimate of price elasticity was 2.54, which means that for each 1% increase in ticket price, there is a 2.54% decrease in demand. The Australian study came up with estimates between 0.9 and 2.5.
So, for a $5 increase to Rex airfares that average about $120 (a 4.2% increase), the estimates from those studies suggest a decrease in demand of between 4% and 10%, which equates to 1-3 tickets in a 30 seat aircraft.
With 30 seats filled at $120 each, total revenue is $3,600, but ...
With 29 seats filled at $125 each, total revenue is $3,625.
With 28 seats filled at $125 each, total revenue is $3,500.
With 27 seats filled at $125 each, total revenue is $3,375.
Aircraft,
You really are a Tool!
I was more than prepared to take Freddy's sage advice, but I can't help it.
The situation the industry finds itself in today is for one reason only.
PILOT TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE INADEQUATE!
All your economic 101 is just what it seems. Rehtorical "BULLSH!T"
You really are a Tool!
I was more than prepared to take Freddy's sage advice, but I can't help it.
The situation the industry finds itself in today is for one reason only.
PILOT TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE INADEQUATE!
All your economic 101 is just what it seems. Rehtorical "BULLSH!T"