From Air NZ Link. There will be a NZ Pilot Shortage!!!
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From Air NZ Link. There will be a NZ Pilot Shortage!!!
A shortage of airline pilots is expected to hit New Zealand in 12 months but it will not compromise passenger safety or frequency of flights, an industry representative says.
Captain John Lenaghan, training manager for Air New Zealand subsidiary Mount Cook Airline, said a worldwide shortage of pilots had been created by increasing demand for air travel.
"People used to get the bus and now they get an Airbus."
Mr Lenaghan spoke on Friday in Nelson to a student pilot conference at the Nelson Marlborough Institute of Technology. The conference was organised by the polytechnic student association.
He said in New Zealand, smaller airlines acted as trainers for pilots before they moved on to a larger operator.
An airline pilot in New Zealand must have a minimum of 1500 hours' flying experience.
Airlines would set up their own flight academies to ensure new pilots were properly trained if flight schools suffered a shortage of instructors, he said.
As well as becoming more involved in training, airlines would look to attract overseas-based New Zealand pilots back to ensure there was not a decrease in flights, he said.
Aviation Industry Association chief executive Irene King said an extra 70,000 pilots would be needed in the Asia-Pacific region over the next 10 years to keep pace with 6 percent annual growth in the transport industry.
Captain John Lenaghan, training manager for Air New Zealand subsidiary Mount Cook Airline, said a worldwide shortage of pilots had been created by increasing demand for air travel.
"People used to get the bus and now they get an Airbus."
Mr Lenaghan spoke on Friday in Nelson to a student pilot conference at the Nelson Marlborough Institute of Technology. The conference was organised by the polytechnic student association.
He said in New Zealand, smaller airlines acted as trainers for pilots before they moved on to a larger operator.
An airline pilot in New Zealand must have a minimum of 1500 hours' flying experience.
Airlines would set up their own flight academies to ensure new pilots were properly trained if flight schools suffered a shortage of instructors, he said.
As well as becoming more involved in training, airlines would look to attract overseas-based New Zealand pilots back to ensure there was not a decrease in flights, he said.
Aviation Industry Association chief executive Irene King said an extra 70,000 pilots would be needed in the Asia-Pacific region over the next 10 years to keep pace with 6 percent annual growth in the transport industry.
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Good old Irene King, havent heard from her since the last pilot shortage, which was..... well.... um..... NEVER!!!
Pilot shortage my arse, while 5000hr link pilots are being told not to bother to apply to Air NZ because they have not got a degree, correct schooling, don't know the Grammar boys secret handshake, or whatever else the recruiting dept comes up with next, I find it difficult to belive any "shortage".
If they treated them decently when there was a surplus they might not of left in the first place!!!!!!
Mount cook would consider setting up a flight school but not backdating its pay or giving pilots business class seating to the sim............... Right.....
Pilot shortage my arse, while 5000hr link pilots are being told not to bother to apply to Air NZ because they have not got a degree, correct schooling, don't know the Grammar boys secret handshake, or whatever else the recruiting dept comes up with next, I find it difficult to belive any "shortage".
As well as becoming more involved in training, airlines would look to attract overseas-based New Zealand pilots back to ensure there was not a decrease in flights, he said.
Captain John Lenaghan, training manager for Air New Zealand subsidiary Mount Cook Airline, said a worldwide shortage of pilots had been created by increasing demand for air travel.
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Why the hell should I come home just yet? I can earn 3 or 4 times an NZ salary in real terms...secure my financial future, and retire back to Pauanui at age 45 to practise my golf/snapper fishing skills?
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Eagle has had approx. 35-40 resignations this calender year, and a further 20 odd crew with confirmed or potential opportunities, mostly before the end of the year, looking at a potential 50% turnover of crew this calender year.
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There is an article in this months NZ Aviation News saying CTC is setting up an Airline Pilot course for IFR/CPL qualified pilots which ends in a guaranteed Eagle interview!?
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There is an article in this months NZ Aviation News saying CTC is setting up an Airline Pilot course for IFR/CPL qualified pilots which ends in a guaranteed Eagle interview!?
Wasnt that long ago that a fella was posting on here asking what to do now because he had just finished CTC's CPL/IR course and was left with absolutely no job prospects at the end of it. If the promise sounds too good to be true then it probably is!
What supposedly does this new course offer to people who already have a CPL and multi IR that makes them so attractive to Eagle?
What supposedly does this new course offer to people who already have a CPL and multi IR that makes them so attractive to Eagle?
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The day any employer of pilots in this country lifts wages to keep pilots, says to the leaving pilot "what can we do to keep you", or genuinely competes with another operator/company to attract pilots is the day I eat my hat. And I will ring Irene King, applogise, congratulate her in her correct forecasting of the NZ Aviation industry and ask her to choose what sauce she would like said hat to be consumed with. I hope i'm wrong.... But I know i'm right. 
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Yep, agreed, she's all a load of bowlacks, designed to suit a particlar agenda.
There are blokes with licences hanging off trees in NZ - taxi drivers in AKL, musterers in Canterbury, barmen in ZQN etc etc.
Shortage will never happen in the land of the long white one, the requiremnts will just creep down bit by bit, and in the meantime the training schools are still pumping out more...
There are blokes with licences hanging off trees in NZ - taxi drivers in AKL, musterers in Canterbury, barmen in ZQN etc etc.
Shortage will never happen in the land of the long white one, the requiremnts will just creep down bit by bit, and in the meantime the training schools are still pumping out more...
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$300k base per year would SOLVE the problem.... I know it a rediculous suggestion as a long term solution but there is middle ground in there somewhere whereby the gap can be plugged.
At the end of the day we are all in it for the $$$ or we would basking in someother found wealth and flying our own aircraft of whatever nature to satisfy our needs much like Travolta
At the end of the day we are all in it for the $$$ or we would basking in someother found wealth and flying our own aircraft of whatever nature to satisfy our needs much like Travolta
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Pilot Shortage
I'm tired of you weaners spouting on about how badly you're treated. You're lucky to have jobs (in some cases, not all). When ANZ was short of pilots in '88, I landed a job with 960 hours (mostly multi IR). When the 787 arrives, there will be a huge need for qualified pilots, and the hours requirement will go down as a result. It's supply and demand, basic business principles. If you don't like where you are, go overseas. Stop bitching. Because sure as god made little apples, you'll bitch more about your expat situation. Just check out the Fragrant Harbour and Emirates forums.Grow up, get a life.
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So you landed a job out of the RNZAF, with 960 hours, and now on daddys yatch you get a tray of sammies on pushback, just in case your hungry, and anybody who whinges should just off.
Dude if you did your time again and through civy street you would probably not have even paid off your student loan at 45. Maybee you wouldn't be such a little mr happy trousers.
Good on ya if things have worked out well for you, but for many its a little harder road to hoe, and people get a little bitter sumtimes.
Lots of people haveed off as you put it, and they wont be the last.
I work for the same company as you, enjoy my job, and also get sick of the serial moaners and wingers, as they make a long trip a longer one, however I dont do it for love.
off. Dude if you did your time again and through civy street you would probably not have even paid off your student loan at 45. Maybee you wouldn't be such a little mr happy trousers.
Good on ya if things have worked out well for you, but for many its a little harder road to hoe, and people get a little bitter sumtimes.
Lots of people have
ed off as you put it, and they wont be the last.I work for the same company as you, enjoy my job, and also get sick of the serial moaners and wingers, as they make a long trip a longer one, however I dont do it for love.
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400,
You never heard me complaining about my T&C's but im here to make a living and if there is a higher bidder Ill jump. This is NOT THE SAME as whinging, its merely supply and demand.
I think this can be safely said about most people here.
You never heard me complaining about my T&C's but im here to make a living and if there is a higher bidder Ill jump. This is NOT THE SAME as whinging, its merely supply and demand.
I think this can be safely said about most people here.
Silly Old Git
I wish I had kept my rejection letter from ANZ in the 70's
Went like ..dah de dah yadda yadda..please dont bother to apply again .We are able to chose enough suitable candidates from the RNAF...wish you well in whatever career you chose to pursue ...yours faithfully ...Ima Khnut ANZ Flight dept etc etc
Friend got one exactly the same ..the same week in his letterbox was an acceptance letter from AN
Went like ..dah de dah yadda yadda..please dont bother to apply again .We are able to chose enough suitable candidates from the RNAF...wish you well in whatever career you chose to pursue ...yours faithfully ...Ima Khnut ANZ Flight dept etc etc
Friend got one exactly the same ..the same week in his letterbox was an acceptance letter from AN