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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 10:30
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New Jetstar Pilot Proposal

Heard from a mate at jetstar the pilots were presented today with the following. Can anyone confirm this to be true?????
Todays Jetstar Management proposal to their Pilots.
$20000 onto the base of $140966 = $160996
$15000 Retention bonus
Base hours of 65 per MONTH. This equates to 59.3 hours per 28 days. (compared to 71hrs per 28 for the VB guys.....hell of a big difference)
Captains overtime rate $220 per hour from 65 hours per calander month.
5 year EBA.
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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 12:03
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Yeah,heard the same only my soarce also mentioned a monthly allowance of a hundred virgins !!.

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It's long overdue for the JPG (aka IPG) to stand up and be counted. The current pilot shortage is the first time that OZ pilots have had to jointly force the extremely highly paid management to pay salaries appropriate to our skills.

If this is what's on offer, vote NO and force them to come back with a better offer. They can't get enough pilots from anywhere else so make them "show us the money".
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The devil is in the detail. The 5 year period of the EBA is an obvious attempt to lock in low rates for as long as possible.

Jetstar pilots should follow the lead of VB and now QF SH pilots. Don't sell yourselves short.

Rumour is that Tiger will be paying 190K a year for a A320 Captain.
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 04:11
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I too have heard the proposal had a substantial increase. Can anyone who was there, or has any info comment on it?
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$20000 onto the base of $140966 = $160996
Is this it over the five years or is this the start up pay rise followed by annualised pay rises (or at least 3% annually)? If it's all the pay rise there is over the next five years then to quote a famous Chairman, anyone thinking of saying 'yes' has a "mental problem" with how in demand their skills are at the moment.
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Good post Frozo.

would you be interested in helping me out with my finances?
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 11:21
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The Jetstar pilots I have talked to have no idea of any pay rise especially since their EBA doesn't run out until late next year. Sounds like it might be a windup as the head of Jetstar doesn't strike me a some one to throw money to pilots!
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 11:35
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I know at Qlink. MAnagement is keen to wrap up the pilots eba very quickly. The current one finishes is a few weeks. This is very different to the last eba which they were happy to let ride for about 2 years!!! I think they can smell danger and they also want to lock the pilot group into something pronto. I know that their other main concern is pilot retention. If they are serious about pilot retention then one would expect serious action to stop the bleed. The haemorraging will start within the next 12 months!
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 11:45
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12 months?

12 weeks!
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 22:45
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Strange how Virgin, QANTAS and now Jetstar are all trying for five year EBAs?
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 23:44
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Can anyone tell me, what happens to the guys that are on the AWA, do they get the same increases, or is the AWA treated as something different?
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Old 25th Jun 2007, 00:57
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Can anyone tell me if anyone was insane enough to sign the AWA given the current climate?
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Old 25th Jun 2007, 01:13
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Yeah, any QF FOs that come across under the MOU
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Old 25th Jun 2007, 08:51
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Knowing the intellectual firepower that flows through the JPC I reckon it could well be another case of Ready, Fire ...Aim
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Old 25th Jun 2007, 10:36
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Ask those same F/O's about what's happened to their staff travel etc!
Not happy Jan!
What a fantastic MOU,
NOT!
Funny how letting a couple of youngins across effectively satisfied the intent of the MOU and also neutered a court case being run against JetStar.Oh dear now the court action has been withdrawn management can no longer honour the MOU, looming pilot shortage you know.
No wonder so many think management are a bunch of f*^%&!@s
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Ok I'll bite, what happened to their Staff travel etc...?
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 02:53
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This is news to most in the pilot group. The only place it has been seen in writing is here!!! I think its fair to say that management are becoming quite worried about crewing numbers. More new aircraft cant fly themselves.

I think the AWAs were a cunning ploy.

Dm
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Nice, Back seat getting you down little matey?
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 09:13
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call a JPC commitee member, you'll be pleaseantly suprised DM As far as I've heard the roadshow was very positive.
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