Physics removed from entry criteria by the Big Red (Merged)
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Now let me see, that only leaves me English and Maths short now...
Any body know if South Australian Chemisty + a foreign language from the late 90s counts as equivalent to yr.12 English?
At the time it was accepted to be equivalent for university entrance purposes, and the Airforce accepted it too.
At the time it was accepted to be equivalent for university entrance purposes, and the Airforce accepted it too.
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hope the cadetship doesnt follow suit - I spent all last year studying yr 12 physics (and sitting the HSC) just to be eligibe......now they are saying its not required! arrrgh
spose no knowledge is wasted eh?
spose no knowledge is wasted eh?
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Physics removed from entry criteria by the Big Red (Merged)
I am just wondering if anyone has any idea as to why QANTAS has removed Physics as part of the educational criteria ??
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Interesting. We'll soon have a crop of drivers in Australia who don't know what a vector diagram is!!
Could it be they want to slyly eradicate the disparity between the highly educated pure Rat drivers and the poorly or un-educated pseudo-Rat JefStar drivers.
Cynical, I know. If you can't get what you want, lower the bar.
English will be next.
Could it be they want to slyly eradicate the disparity between the highly educated pure Rat drivers and the poorly or un-educated pseudo-Rat JefStar drivers.
Cynical, I know. If you can't get what you want, lower the bar.
English will be next.
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Coz everyone knows you need year 12 physics and a university degree to multiply by 3 to work out a descent profile,
Interesting. We'll soon have a crop of drivers in Australia who don't know what a vector diagram is!!
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Steve Holding's going to spew!! 
How to kill a niche industry with a stroke of a pen.
However Physics should be part of the minimum requirements. Didn't see you guys bagging Ansett for having the same requirements a few years back.
Interesting to note than in the USA to fly for the majors you have to have a 4 year degree. It is also interesting to note that the academic level of alot of the year 12 subjects has also dropped in Australia in the last 10 years. The Uni's have been complaining that the levels of Maths and Science from year 12 are getting pretty bad and people are unable to handle some of the harder degrees.
How to kill a niche industry with a stroke of a pen.However Physics should be part of the minimum requirements. Didn't see you guys bagging Ansett for having the same requirements a few years back.
Interesting to note than in the USA to fly for the majors you have to have a 4 year degree. It is also interesting to note that the academic level of alot of the year 12 subjects has also dropped in Australia in the last 10 years. The Uni's have been complaining that the levels of Maths and Science from year 12 are getting pretty bad and people are unable to handle some of the harder degrees.
short flights long nights
During what part of the flight am I required to make use of a vector diagram?
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I can assure you that virtually every major airline in the US had dropped the degree requirement by 1999. AIRinc can tell anyone wanting to know what each majors 'minimums' are in the US.
Clearly these rather random 'requirements' have in the past been a way to artificially reduce the number of applicants. This same system has been used at universities for years where entrance scores are varied every year based on supply of candidates Vs number of places available.
Either this is an obvious wind up or an unfortunate display of arrogance from a couple of mainline pilots.
I can assure you that virtually every major airline in the US had dropped the degree requirement by 1999. AIRinc can tell anyone wanting to know what each majors 'minimums' are in the US.
Clearly these rather random 'requirements' have in the past been a way to artificially reduce the number of applicants. This same system has been used at universities for years where entrance scores are varied every year based on supply of candidates Vs number of places available.
Either this is an obvious wind up or an unfortunate display of arrogance from a couple of mainline pilots.
Errr...Howard - Desc from FL300 is 30 X 3 = 90. Therefore commence descent from approx 90 miles (plus or minus wind or other considerations).
JT
JT
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A great shame
Pilots without physics wouldn't be able to see the necessity of physics - a situation akin to "you don't know what you don't know".
Hands up all those that subscribe to the idea that, upon reaching top of climb, rather than just level out and allow the aircraft to accelerate, you climb a few hundred feet more, accelerate, then descend down to the cruising altitude so as to leave you with a higher cruising speed?
There are many, many pilots in Australia that subscribe to this idea. I have heard this "technique" referred to as "getting over the step". I have even heard pilots requesting a "climb overshoot" to ATC when about to conduct it.
If these pilots had done physics (and understood it) they wouldn't be doing that because they would know that there cannot be any benefits to it - and, they would also know that, in fact, doing so only prolongs the time it takes to get settled down in the cruise!
A pilot with an understanding of physics is a much more astute pilot than one without.
A great shame, but such are the commercial realities facing Qantas.
Hands up all those that subscribe to the idea that, upon reaching top of climb, rather than just level out and allow the aircraft to accelerate, you climb a few hundred feet more, accelerate, then descend down to the cruising altitude so as to leave you with a higher cruising speed?
There are many, many pilots in Australia that subscribe to this idea. I have heard this "technique" referred to as "getting over the step". I have even heard pilots requesting a "climb overshoot" to ATC when about to conduct it.
If these pilots had done physics (and understood it) they wouldn't be doing that because they would know that there cannot be any benefits to it - and, they would also know that, in fact, doing so only prolongs the time it takes to get settled down in the cruise!
A pilot with an understanding of physics is a much more astute pilot than one without.
A great shame, but such are the commercial realities facing Qantas.
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Aircraft - BOLLOCKS.
You don't need physics to fly an aeroplane or follow SOPS.
Jeeez, some of you guys need to climb down out of your ivory towers.
Or I got sucker-punched by a pair of trolls.................
You don't need physics to fly an aeroplane or follow SOPS.
Jeeez, some of you guys need to climb down out of your ivory towers.
Or I got sucker-punched by a pair of trolls.................