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Old 29th Apr 2007, 03:53
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No AOC for Skyairworld, delay for Solomon Airlines

Found this on Ozspotters, can anyone confirm it?

VH-SWO will not be going into service on 01 May as there have been some delays.

While this aircraft is in Solomon Airlines colours it will in fact be operated by the new company Sky Air World. Sky Air do not yet have their Air Operators Certificate from CASA. When everything is in place CASA will issue the AOC and Sky Air can commence commercial operations. Those initial ops will be on contract to Solomon A/L.
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Old 30th Apr 2007, 11:33
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SAW

just checked their web page and looks like they are updating their website as BIG things are meant to happen for them tmrw ..ie their first flight with Solomon.

i dont think they would be updating their web page if they hadnt got their AOC ..this has been in progress for many months with careful planning by experiencd people.

it will be interesting to read their web page tomorrow!
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Old 30th Apr 2007, 11:39
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Looks that way

The Townsville refueller informs me Solomon Airlines have extended the lease on the 73 for another 2 months...so I guess that means no AOC for SAW.

Not a very good start for a new operator trying to get into a crowded market.

BTW no AOC listed for SAW on the CASA web site.

I'd say the update of their web site will show the delay, as the old site contained information about having an AOC by the 1st of May.

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Old 1st May 2007, 02:07
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Web page updated, but still no AOC. Today's flight was carried out by the B737.

The biggest change on the web page appears to be details about manangement, plus a few more pics.
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start up

start up will be later this month i reckon..
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Saw the Skyairworld Emraer the other day, looked quite nice in the Solomons paint, however was really surprised how small the aircraft seemed.
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I see that they are looking for A330/340 drivers???
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SWO did a flight BNE-RK-BNE yesterday morning. Training/Check i assume only as it did the 15RNAV approach, followed by a missed approach back to Brisbane.
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i presume by RK you mean Rockhampton or was it somewhere else? any cabin crew on board?
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Don't know as they didn't land or give a POB. And yes Rockhampton.
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The Spanish operator of the 733 has decided to take the aircraft home, although I believe it has been wheel clamped by AAES until they sort out the bill......

In lieu of Scary Air World not having their AOC yet, OzJet has stepped in to cover the next couple of weeks operations..... All arranged at short notice to I believe.

Is there any truth to the rumour that Sky Air World failed their emergency procedures a little while back?? I am a little surprised by this as every time they are reported in the press they bag the F100 and B732 operators. Their website makes reference to being aviation solutions specialists..... The fact they have not been able to deliver on their first contract gives those established they have bagged considerable leverage
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OZjet - 732's??? Bit of a come down for the Solomons pax unfortunately - and via TSV possibly??? Ah well, with the limited capacity of the 732 it will give Solomon Airline some practice at being a bit short on payload when the E170 eventually gets going compared to the 733 they had. Sounds like a great business decision.
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everyone seems pretty quick to criticise SAW when they havent even had a chance to roll out yet..this is AVIATION isnt it? everyone has been victum of the perils of CASA before havent they? getting an AOC in this country isnt like gettig getting a driver's licence!

and as for the experience of its team..well we all have started somewhere in this game..I for one believe they are a highly professional team..

many have left other large successfull airlines to become part of this start up -good luck to them.

we need some class and finesse back in our cheapened skies!
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Here, here, Wingletts!
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Two airlines?

The two airline policy is alive and well.
I wonder why the third airline always has serious startup problems. Entry control??????
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I don't think people are Criticising SAW, but are just stating the facts as they stand now.

Their web page does knock the B732 and the F100, but at least the operators of those types have an AOC and I believe Ozjet got theirs first time around with no delays.
I think the old saying “people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones” applies to SAW.

I agree they do have some very good people in the senior pilot ranks.
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but at least the operators of those types have an AOC and I believe Ozjet got theirs first time around with no delays.
Yes, but I seem to recall the Chief Pilot of OZ Jet left CASA to take up the job, so first time around and no delays !
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VH-SWO will not be going into service on 01 May as there have been some delays.
While this aircraft is in Solomon Airlines colours it will in fact be operated by the new company Sky Air World. Sky Air do not yet have their Air Operators Certificate from CASA. When everything is in place CASA will issue the AOC and Sky Air can commence commercial operations. Those initial ops will be on contract to Solomon A/L.
As a side issue, the person who posted this on OzSpotters is also the CASA case manager for Sky Air World's AOC application! Slight lack of professionalism perhaps?

The AOC should be granted next Friday (May 11) after the final route proving flight on Thursday.

And as for "knocking" other aircraft types, my reading of their website is that they just do comparos against the 732 and F100 which show the 170 and 190 in a very good light! Nobody's "knocking" anything.

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Just been onto the Embraer website to confirm what my understanding of the specifications for the Embraer 170 jet, it confirms my concern that the Solomons airline people are not fully aware as to the "suitability" of this aircraft and how it will "benefit" them. 'Fessing up, I travel there quite a bit and despite preferring not to travel on an Ozjet 732, at least it isn't 2 abreast seating and, from my perspective, claustophobic - and it appears from the 78 config I'd not be able to travel J-class in the style I'm accustomed to. My type who prefer business travel aren't getting a look-in, it seems!!!! Eight tonnes payoad, too, according to the E website - can't magine where any cargo that was put onto the Spanish 733 will go. How do I figure that - the website says 78 passengers at 100 kg each, that leaves 200 kg for freight!!!!! The airline must be planning on a significant number of services each week to cover the capacity shortfall otherwise. Bring back the 737 I say, it served those wanting to do business in the Solomons well. From my position I stand by my earlier remarks querying the soundness of this decision. But then, as a fare paying passenger, do airlines really care what I think??
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From the Sky Air World Website

Our specialty is:
the introduction of new aircraft types into service;
Air Operator Certificate development for start-up airlines and charter operators;
upgrading of existing AOCs into high capacity, airline and/or international services;
operational environment expansion;
flight operations infrastructure planning and implementation;
management of associated training and operational matters; support technologies.
Our methodology provides a framework with clear goals, efficient resource allocation, identification of rate-determining steps, risk identification and management, transparent reporting and well-defined deliverables. It is experience in using this methodology that ensures projects are on budget and on schedule.
Now that is quite a bold statement to be making don't you think? Especially when you are dealing with CASA!
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