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Old 8th Apr 2007, 00:15
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MAM & Dom/Reg FAAA

How come MAM and the FAAA shae the same address?

Is MAM an FAAA company?

IS the FAAA funded by MAM?

Anyone have any info? I have just discovered this and find it very concerning that they have the same address. Is this why there are so many casuals? Is this why there is only a dribble of MAM's made permanent?
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Old 8th Apr 2007, 00:29
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very cosy

arangement there
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Old 8th Apr 2007, 02:04
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I didn't realise that Moonee Ponds, VIC and Alexandria, NSW were the same suburb!
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Old 8th Apr 2007, 03:22
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You are right, in fact they are in different states!
The FAAA has offices and representatives in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Click on the city name to send an email.
Sydney
18/538 Gardeners Road
Alexandria
NSW 2015

tel: (02) 9669 5366
freecall: 1 800 733 222
fax: 02 9669 5388

email:
[email protected]
Melbourne
5/19 Norwood Crescent
Moonee Ponds
VIC 3039

tel: (03) 9326 0866

fax: 03 9326 0857

email:
[email protected]
Brisbane
5/5 Zillman Road
Hendra
QLD 4011

tel: (07) 3268 3323

fax: 07 3268 4830

email:
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Old 8th Apr 2007, 07:04
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guys,
indeed the FAAA office in melbourne shares the same address as MAM ( have been told by FAAA representatives that they rent a room of MAM in the same building ). thats all.
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cosy indeed

Yes they share an office in Melbourne apparently.

However they do have a divider that divides the room!! So don't worry, the divider makes all the difference

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Old 8th Apr 2007, 07:07
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Maybe gaudian, pegasus747 or eden99 may spread some clarity here. I know id love to have been a fly on the wall in Monee ponds during the 2003 stop work meeting. hmmmmmm indeed.

But this info is not new to prune i posted this ages ago and long haul still is getting smaller. l1a.

Thanks dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 8th Apr 2007, 07:18
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Dear Bla Bla !

Have a look in the dictionary on the word ….Collusion

Better still, just click the below link…..

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Collusion

Thanks
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So more VR, more LWOP(with staff travel), more temp Part time. FWA - dump down to 85hrs. New EBA - you want part time, have it. Meanwhile, we'll turn our heads and let more and more contract C(20day) casuals get hired - NO QUESTION. Sit back and count the $$$$$$$$$$$

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Old 8th Apr 2007, 21:06
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Getting back to the thread....

If the MAM offices and the FAAA offfices have the same address it certainly raises some questions doesn't it.
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Old 8th Apr 2007, 23:06
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2003 MAM casuals to long haul

2003 MAM casuals to long haul to operate whilst stop work meeting by long haul is happening.....nothing to special that you would expect from a casual work force if it wasnt effectivly from a union and labour hire office in one office,but wait there is more!!!!but i shall refrain.

l1a.....
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 01:33
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and you will see

that is why they constantly increase the number of casuals this year. they are going to push hard in the new EBA. if they cant get what they want use casuals until such time there is a compromise.it pretty clear that qf expects a long drawn out EBA negotiations for LH/SH. remember it actually saves them money if they let the EBA expire and continue. jus look whats going on in virgin/ domstic pilots/ etc. united we go forward, divided we stand still.
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 01:53
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LL - yes the address is 19 Norwood cres, Moonee Ponds Vic, same has FAAA Mel.
I am still concerned and have a few more questions.Apparently the guy who owns MAM used to be a union rep for FAAA domestic, whilst running the AN casuals. This cannot be true can it?
MAM were also supplying crew for the jumbo when there was a strike?
Has a S/H or MAM EBA ever been voted down? What about at AN?
At work today I was also told the FAAA are pushing for casuals at DJ? Anyone at DJ have more info?

This is cc question, why was this moved?
I think DJ, JQ and NJS would be able to add to this, no?

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I think you should all get over your conspiracy theories regarding the FAAA and MAM colluding!
Yes the address is the same because their offices are in the same building!
That's the thing with big office buildings....lots of businesses share the same address!
Anyhow the FAAA in MEL are moving house soon.
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all sounds very complex but its the same suite. cheers gigs
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casualvermin...You are right,old Maurrie was indeed a union rep and is now supplying cheap casual labour to the company.

Cart_Tart... "Yes the address is the same because their offices are in the same building!
That's the thing with big office buildings....lots of businesses share the same address"

Thats right Cart and there are no other buildings in Melbourne just this one.....

Imagine if the Libs and Labour shared an office together.No would think that was strange would they?????
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Doesn't MAM stand for Maurice Alexander Management?
Wasn't Maurice Alexander an officer of the FAAA before a short stint with a National operator.
Didn't the conditions of cabin crew at said National jet operator fall after the arrival of the former union officer?
Hasn't MAM led to reduced conditions for cabin crew at another national operator?
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we will have to wait for quite a while for the DOM FAAA to answer no doubt they are on an extended break at the expense of the SH FAAA members, just like their LH FAAA counterparts.
This thread is quite interesting, what is really going on!
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Capt Claret.......As far as I know the answer to your questions is YES.

Basically he was with the FAAA and now supplies cheap casual labour to Darth Air.The use of casual labour by Darth has arguably lead to the decrease in conditions and flying to existing crew.Ironic isn't it?

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Old 9th Apr 2007, 11:41
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Originally Posted by casualvermin
At work today I was also told the FAAA are pushing for casuals at DJ? Anyone at DJ have more info?
Correct - the proposed EBA (which I might add, got voted down 88.97% -you have to wonder why the FAAA endorsed it so heavily) contained provisions for not only casual cabin crew, but also Fixed Term Contract Crew.

Bad Bad news.
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