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Old 3rd May 2007, 06:44
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i would have thought an employment application form and a note saying casuals shall be notified in about 1 week about transfers for home base means more one would think...........maybe its a long process...........at least some staff would go up in bidding. cheers gigs
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Old 3rd May 2007, 07:18
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Casuals are given the opportunity to be made permanent - this is NOT Career Progression.
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Old 3rd May 2007, 07:39
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Are all casuals going to be made permanent?
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Old 3rd May 2007, 07:45
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Qantas to Open New Base in Cairns Latest News
Sydney, 03 May 2007
Qantas today announced that it would establish a new base in Cairns from September, following a decision to close its Australian Airlines operation.
The Executive General Manager of Qantas, Mr John Borghetti, said the Qantas Group - which currently employed around 950 people in Cairns - would remain a major employer in Cairns, continuing to directly employ more than 900 people.
"We expect the majority of Australian Airlines cabin crew to take up new positions in Cairns," he said.
"The new base will employ approximately 220 cabin crew, all recruited from the Australian Airlines Cairns base.

"Cabin crew positions are also available with Jetstar, which is currently recruiting for its new international base in Cairns."
Mr Borghetti said that in addition to the cabin crew positions in Cairns:
* all Australian Airlines pilots would return to Qantas operations, with an opportunity for half (around 40) to remain in Cairns to crew, subject to union agreement, those B767 operations that continue to use Cairns airport and the remainder relocating to Sydney;
* positions would be available for all administrative staff in Brisbane or Sydney; and
* additional cabin crew positions would be available in London, Sydney, Melbourne and Perth.
He said the Qantas base would operate B767, B737 and A330 aircraft between Cairns and a range of destinations on the Qantas domestic network, as well as Qantas' Cairns-Narita flights.
"Our meetings last month with political and tourism representatives in Cairns, including Mayor Kevin Byrne, provided an opportunity for the Qantas Group to assess all the options available for future operations in the region," he said.
"Our overriding objective was to ensure that the Qantas Group could continue to grow services and support tourism in the region.
"Qantas, Jetstar and QantasLink will continue to operate almost 400 flights each week - more than 71,000 seats - in and out of Cairns.
"This is an important development for the Qantas Group, enabling us to strengthen our presence in Cairns and ensure that we continue to grow tourism in the region."
Issued by Qantas Corporate Communication (Q3752)
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Old 3rd May 2007, 08:02
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The AKL base.

Ditzyboy,

QF management [cough] are creating a stand alone CC base in AKL along the lines of the LHR one.

We currently have to fly with QF's "new breed" and the thought of them running P/C and J/C cabins fills me with dread.

I will be doing ALL in my power to avoid flying with them and I won't be alone. For months supervisors have been doing all they can to dump AKL-LA trips.
Now it'll be the CSM's turn to deal with the grief.

We all know what is happening with the regional flying now that it is almost exclusively being done by the domestics as we hear the horror stories.

The AKL base is just going to be more of the same. Except with more demanding, bigger spending and higher yield passengers.

The type who CHOOSE to award QF with their million dollar travel contracts.........

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Old 3rd May 2007, 13:29
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Question

Will AO -> S/H CNS get bands?
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Old 3rd May 2007, 23:47
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The EBA states anyone who joins SH post a certain date (2003 some time?) get DHP as opposed to bands. DHP is around 2/3 of the bands amount for the same Band.

This includes LH transfers, Career Progression, new hires, MAM to permanent - everyone. Even people coming back to SH after a stint at LH.
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Old 4th May 2007, 01:49
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So lower conditions than those who are taking VR?
Will they keep seniority? Will the CSM's remain as CSM's?
Technically I guess that AO had no progression in any EBA which makes them 'alley cats', which means regional progression has been triggered?
How many f/a need to leave the base? It is just going to be 220, right?
How many regional/JQ can come across?

Not enough information for my liking.....
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Old 4th May 2007, 06:58
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This just in from the FAAA SH

Attention all Qantas Group Flight Attendants



AUSTRALIAN AIRLINES CNS BASE


Late yesterday, Qantas announced that the subsidiary Australian Airlines is to cease operations and that a Short Haul base is to be established in Cairns.

Qantas management contacted the Association yesterday advising of the announcement and offering discussions. As you will understand, until these discussions have taken place, we are not in a position to report on any specific arrangements for the start up for the new base.

While there are obvious questions that all members have, depending upon their airline, it is important to remember that the new base is not scheduled to commence until September 2007. Members can be assured all issues relating to the creation of a new base will be raised through the negotiations with Qantas. By way of example, the announcement included capacity for Australian Airlines crew to express an interest in other Short Haul bases. This will not impact on our existing base transfer arrangements that are already the subject of separate discussions. Once details have been discussed and agreed, members will be advised accordingly.

The decision to offer employment to Australian Airlines crew is welcomed and is consistent with Southern Airlines closure where all displaced flight attendants were offered options of employment.

In the meantime, all members should be pleased for Australian Airlines crew (also members of the FAAA and part of the Qantas subsidiary group) that there is now an opportunity for ongoing employment and they are not faced with compulsory redundancy.


Members will be kept informed as the matter progresses.





This newsletter was written and authorised by Jo Ann Davidson, Divisional Secretary and John Playford Manager Industrial Relations
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Old 5th May 2007, 01:01
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Well the newspaper already told us that. Haven't the FAAA got an idea of some kind direction in which the want to blend AO to S/H? What would they like to see?
And now we have VR as there is a surplus of s/h crew, yet they are still recruiting casual and now AO on lower conditions than those who will be redundant. FAAA where are your scruples?
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Old 5th May 2007, 01:35
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Very interesting move by the company when you think about it.

Currently the AO crew are members of the L/H FAAA.Now If they take up the offer and become S/H in the Cairns base they will I suspect become members of the S/H FAAA.

So in one stroke they are reducing the members and therefore the revenue base of the L/H division and giving it to the S/H FAAA.....Very Cosy
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Old 5th May 2007, 05:38
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Sydney-Mumbai-London .on its way.

Sydney-Mumbai-London .on its way.
Ladies and Gentlemen: Why do you think us casuals are doing the Bombay / Mumbai shuttle?
Qantas & the Australian government are in CONSTANT meetings with the Indian government for all allowing Mumbai London three weekly services, then daily services. Hello to more offshore Flight Attendants at a 90% discount.
The schedule service will be around November, December 2008.
Oh! Yes this will happen.....
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Old 5th May 2007, 06:41
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great..... let the casuals and any others have Bombay, the place is a faarken dump and no one ever wants to go there.
Most people you speak to in LH are dreading the thought of BOM coming back.
the Domestics can have it for as long as they like.
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Old 5th May 2007, 06:41
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Constant Casual Curries

"L1A" crew member 6,876,846 who know's someone and had been given the inside gos on what the company are going to do in 18 months time.

mate not that i am cynical or anything but they can't even get to a 7pm deadline after nearly 4 to 6 months of planning so what makes you think they know what they are going to be doing in 18 months let alone you?

If you like being a casual then good for you but i'm glad i have seen the good times and feel sorry for those who think the job is good now...mate if you think flying to mumbai is good then i wont mention tahiti let alone all the other ex ports we used to sit at by the pool.

by the way if they do have more os cheap crew they are going to be paid less than you and you know what that means.GD will want you to take a pay cut because you are to expensive

mate i forgot to tell you,we were doing bombay londons when you were in kindy!!!

so the rights are probably still there plus the indians would never give the chance to get hard currency a miss
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Old 5th May 2007, 07:09
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Rat Curries

I think L1A, might have been a wee Casuals don't like going there, it is just those old band moles don't - they dump the trip and casuals end up with runny dumps - just like my pie at the footy, all gravey no meat.
Any fulltimers out there who can confrim that their weekend work is drying up??????
Back on the O/S cap, will the remainder of AO have to go over to LHR or is sending Aussie crew over there finished?
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Old 5th May 2007, 07:15
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Roamingwolf, kindy teacher??

Excuse me miss, are you one of those oldies that have a taxi sent to your home when you are on SBY? Do you let the cab driver do a couple of jobs before you are ready to go?
Now I bet they were the good old days...........
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Old 5th May 2007, 08:19
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Wouldn't a BOM-LHR sector go to the LHR base? Aren't they cheaper than the casuals?

Or perhaps...even...a new BOM overseas base??
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Old 5th May 2007, 09:37
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mate you said "Excuse me miss, are you one of those oldies that have a taxi sent to your home when you are on SBY?"

a coupla points pal ,if you think others are girls it usualy means you are.also if you are on standby's and your entitled to a cab then you'd be a goose if you said no.we might be called out to LA or wherever not Dubbo.

I don't know about you but it doesn't take me more than 15 minutes to get ready but then i suppose you kids have to do your hair and make up so the cab could do some local work in the mean time.
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Old 5th May 2007, 09:48
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a coupla points pal ,if you think others are girls it usualy means you are.
So that confirms that you are a girl roamingwolf, because you constantly refer to me as one.

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Excuse me miss, are you one of those oldies that have a taxi sent to your home when you are on SBY?
Ms wolf, I think you will find that casualvermin was referring to those amongst us who refuse to give ops a contact number for standby and therefore the company is forced to send a taxi to their residence to advise them they have been called out.
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Old 5th May 2007, 10:06
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Yes Twiggs I was refering to the ones who have no telephone. God, I ain't a bone head, a free ride is a free ride.
I do apologise Mr Wolf, when I hear kindy I just think MISS MISS. I don't mind if we save the lack of male primary school teachers for another day.

What I still don't get is why you assume it was a jab? I understand that you think casuals a scabs, but one day you and other longhaulers might come to the conculsion that casuals and mainstream S/H are not out to do you out of a job. In fact years back in double talk it was the team managers who were singing about regional flying, along with FAAA.

Now can a s/h person tell me, are you getting weekend work? How come contract C roster comes out before yours?
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