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Old 5th Mar 2007, 12:39
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I am wondering about the legalities of it... Why cant i start up a building company, hire only thais, pay them nothing, and compete with other Australian building companies? Thought it would be illegal for me to do that???
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Old 5th Mar 2007, 20:58
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Elroy,
With George W Howard it would probably be OK but with the public you'd be a shot duck.

With J* they are doing it surreptitiously because it is out of sight of the general public and therefore G W Howard doesn't have to answer questions.

It's also because the journo's don't want to lose any free overseas trips.

If you imported cheap overseas labour and housed them near your work site the press would give you hell because the general public would be walking past it every day.

Then again if there were any renovations or houses to fall off the back of the truck maybe not..............
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Ok, so lets say Myer or David Jones decided that they would recruit all their floor staff from Bangladesh, and pay them local equivalent wages of a stall holder in a Dhakar market, and their excuse was that they buy their garments from Bangladesh, so that is why they hire from there... How long do you think it would be before there was a picket line out the front of the stores?

Before anyone starts about Jeffstar flying to these countries so he should be able to recruit from them, what percentage of Phuket passengers are outbound tourists, and what percentage of the seats sold are Thai locals coming to holiday in Sydney? Shouldnt that percentage be the legal crewing percentage for cabin crew?

If it is legal, what is stopping them hiring tech crew from other countries? Just the Aussie ATPL requirement on the AOC I think. 89 showed us how easy that rule is to bypass if you know the right politicians. One thing the Qantas group does well is grease the right palms in Canberra.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 00:44
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89 showed us how easy that rule is to bypass if you know the right politicians.
Absolutely correct Leroy..........no problems at all!
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 01:16
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Thai cabin crew are on a base wage of $6000AUD a year.
Correct Gnad, and to add insult to injury they have to pay $1500 (which is a ****e load of money to them) as a downpayment before commencing their training. This is non refundable if they decide to leave which many want to due to the abuse of conditions. Unfortunately the turds in management work these people 10 days straight, two off and then another 11 to 12 days. Overnight in the Stamford at Syd then requires them to SHARE rooms. There may be 8 rock up at the hotel but Jet* have only booked 4 or 5 rooms. Penny pinching bas*ards. This is only the tip of the iceburg of what is actually going on. No doubt going to have more probs soon as I hear that 3 more of the EK boys that went over are resigning next month. That's 4 in 5 months. Must be a top outfit to work for. !!!

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Old 6th Mar 2007, 02:09
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hear that 3 more of the EK boys that went over are resigning next month. That's 4 in 5 months. Must be a top outfit to work for. !!!

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wow worst than the sandpit a new low tide mark, must be pissed i mean happy to be home but so pissed off that they will go overseas rather than work for jetstar
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 03:54
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Yeah i don't think I saw any Thais on my flight. apart from the hosties i mean.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 13:30
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Just a thought, but the reason they're able to have non-Aussies crewing might be to do with transport industries in general? F'rinstance, many merchant ships are owned and registered in 'developed' countries but are crewed by people from 'less-developed' nations.

Except where the relevant transport unions of the flag country kick up a stink about it...

Incomiiiiiiing!!
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 18:19
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Well my wife and I have just returned from S.E. Asia, flying 2 sectors with J*
CNS-DRW-SIN return and to be honest could not fault the service, this route is operated by J*Asia crew, and would kill the service given by QF on our last BNE-MNL return, granted it has a QF code share and no charge for F&B.

Also for the 1st time on this trip did 4 sectors with Tiger and the crew on these flights were very good indeed, seeing that Tiger are about to enter the Aus domestic market, I can only imagine J* and Virgin management losing a bit of sleep.

There will be massive turmoil in Australian aviation over the next few years, starting today with the approval of the QF sale.
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