Tiger A320s to operate domestic downunder?
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Tiger A320s to operate domestic downunder?
see article at http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...40-462,00.html
Apparently CEO Tony Davis is in Sydney on Friday for the announcement.
Apparently CEO Tony Davis is in Sydney on Friday for the announcement.
If that proves correct, the airline will face more than a bigger Jetstar presence: Qantas is considering transferring more Boeing 747-300 jumbo jets to its Sydney-Perth Cityflyer service.
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Jetstar tackles a Tiger
By Steve Creedy
February 08, 2007 12:00am
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JETSTAR will add planes to its domestic fleet and expand operations in Western Australia amid speculation of a home-turf challenge from Singapore-backed Tiger Airways.
The Qantas offshoot has also targeted Korea and Taiwan as its next overseas destinations and has not ruled out more wide-body aircraft to service the routes before the arrival of its first Boeing 787s next year.
Tiger is expected to announce an Australian investment tomorrow, possibly involving a link with Perth-based Skywest Airlines that would see Tiger-branded A320s operating from the Western Australian capital.
Aviation sources speculated yesterday that Tiger would use Skywest to put Airbus A320s on the Australian market, amid rumours it was seeking to operate from Perth to the eastern states as well as on the "golden triangle" of Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.
If that proves correct, the airline will face more than a bigger Jetstar presence: Qantas is considering transferring more Boeing 747-300 jumbo jets to its Sydney-Perth Cityflyer service.
Singapore Airlines owns 49 per cent of Tiger and the Singapore Government's investment arm, Temasek Holdings, has 11 per cent. Other shareholders include US private investment firm Indigo Partners and Ryanair's Tony Ryan.
Jetstar chief executive Alan Joyce said his airline had been talking for some time with the Western Australian Government about basing aircraft there, and the expansion was unrelated to moves by Tiger.
"We know that we have to grow past 23 (aircraft) and the business is performing fairly well as the results tomorrow will show," Mr Joyce said.
"It's very clear that this year we've paused because of the long-haul growth.
"Short-haul has come back on the radar screen."
Mr Joyce said potential sources for new aircraft included three that were sub-let to Jetstar Asia (and due back at year's end) and second-hand planes.
He said opportunities in short-haul included growth on domestic routes and establishing international services.
"Perth is a very good example of that, where the A320 has the range to get to a lot of South-East Asian destinations," he said.
"And the third opportunity is really the Tasman.
"Our Christchurch operations are really going very, very well and domestic New Zealand and extra flying across the Tasman fall into a category we would want to look at as well."
Tiger last month announced it would start four flights a week from Perth to Singapore and chief executive Tony Davis is on the board of Skywest's parent, Advent Holdings.
Mr Davis last month told Singaporean media that some of his carrier's new A320s would go to an unnamed joint venture in the region.
He said the new venture would be more comprehensive than a previous agreement with Philippines-based carrier SEair, but that the Singaporean carrier was "not interested in investing lots of money to buy an existing airline".
Tiger provided SEair with two new A320 aircraft as well as technical and operational experience to operate Tiger-branded flights from a new hub at Clark Field in the Philippines.
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JETSTAR will add planes to its domestic fleet and expand operations in Western Australia amid speculation of a home-turf challenge from Singapore-backed Tiger Airways.
The Qantas offshoot has also targeted Korea and Taiwan as its next overseas destinations and has not ruled out more wide-body aircraft to service the routes before the arrival of its first Boeing 787s next year.
Tiger is expected to announce an Australian investment tomorrow, possibly involving a link with Perth-based Skywest Airlines that would see Tiger-branded A320s operating from the Western Australian capital.
Aviation sources speculated yesterday that Tiger would use Skywest to put Airbus A320s on the Australian market, amid rumours it was seeking to operate from Perth to the eastern states as well as on the "golden triangle" of Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.
If that proves correct, the airline will face more than a bigger Jetstar presence: Qantas is considering transferring more Boeing 747-300 jumbo jets to its Sydney-Perth Cityflyer service.
Singapore Airlines owns 49 per cent of Tiger and the Singapore Government's investment arm, Temasek Holdings, has 11 per cent. Other shareholders include US private investment firm Indigo Partners and Ryanair's Tony Ryan.
Jetstar chief executive Alan Joyce said his airline had been talking for some time with the Western Australian Government about basing aircraft there, and the expansion was unrelated to moves by Tiger.
"We know that we have to grow past 23 (aircraft) and the business is performing fairly well as the results tomorrow will show," Mr Joyce said.
"It's very clear that this year we've paused because of the long-haul growth.
"Short-haul has come back on the radar screen."
Mr Joyce said potential sources for new aircraft included three that were sub-let to Jetstar Asia (and due back at year's end) and second-hand planes.
He said opportunities in short-haul included growth on domestic routes and establishing international services.
"Perth is a very good example of that, where the A320 has the range to get to a lot of South-East Asian destinations," he said.
"And the third opportunity is really the Tasman.
"Our Christchurch operations are really going very, very well and domestic New Zealand and extra flying across the Tasman fall into a category we would want to look at as well."
Tiger last month announced it would start four flights a week from Perth to Singapore and chief executive Tony Davis is on the board of Skywest's parent, Advent Holdings.
Mr Davis last month told Singaporean media that some of his carrier's new A320s would go to an unnamed joint venture in the region.
He said the new venture would be more comprehensive than a previous agreement with Philippines-based carrier SEair, but that the Singaporean carrier was "not interested in investing lots of money to buy an existing airline".
Tiger provided SEair with two new A320 aircraft as well as technical and operational experience to operate Tiger-branded flights from a new hub at Clark Field in the Philippines.
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If Tiger Australia is structured so that it is an Australian controlled airline - as Skywest and Alliance are now - it would be allowed to lease 744s from SQ and fly them SYDLAX.
I wonder if the people at Tiger eat Frosties for breakfast.
I wonder if the people at Tiger eat Frosties for breakfast.
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If Tiger can get their hands on some modern aircraft such as the 400 and start operating from perth to the east coast then qf is in some trouble.
The classic should be in a museum and it would be no match for a 400 or other new aircraft .
The 300 has more bugs than a mortein commercial.
The classic should be in a museum and it would be no match for a 400 or other new aircraft .
The 300 has more bugs than a mortein commercial.
It would appear that Singapore has decided to tackle Qantas on its home turf, returning the "favor" Qantas did for them by starting Jetstar Asia and limiting the number of Singapore Airlines direct flights out of Melbourne.
So, these will be the 4 A320s belonging to Avion group (which owns 5% of Advent Air, which is majority shareholder of Skywest), flying under the Skywest AOC but branded with Tiger Airways markings?
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Hey Sunfish,
Why don't you answer the question from another thread about SIA and the SING Gov lobbying against Jetstar Asia getting access to a number of destinations in China and Indonesia.
You keep rabbiting on about big bad QF but they do exactly the same thing as do every other country...protect themselves.
i was right the lifts don't go to the top floor do they?
Why don't you answer the question from another thread about SIA and the SING Gov lobbying against Jetstar Asia getting access to a number of destinations in China and Indonesia.
You keep rabbiting on about big bad QF but they do exactly the same thing as do every other country...protect themselves.
i was right the lifts don't go to the top floor do they?
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Qantas is considering transferring more Boeing 747-300 jumbo jets to its Sydney-Perth Cityflyer service
Would be interested what service they would offer as i wouldnt call Skywest a LCC, they are up there service wise with Qantas and most West Aussies would support them. But we shall see...................
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how does that work
I thought a foreign carrier could not operate domestically in oz with a foreign rego, and does that mean that if they use skywest's aoc they also have to use skywest's pilots and skywest's aircraft?
I thought a foreign carrier could not operate domestically in oz with a foreign rego,
If Tiger can get their hands on some modern aircraft such as the 400
Modern? I believe it was certified in 1989 and it was derived from the previous versions. Modern? I have flown brand new 747 - 400 ERs and there is nothing modern about them.
Anyhow, what goes around comes around, GD will call in a few political favours, drag the matter of approval on and on, QF sale, bonus, etc, what problem? Tiger who? QF?
Call me cynical but lets see what happens.
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woopwoop,
I believe so. I'm sure the Skywest Pilot group will be making the company well aware of their obligations. It is important for them ALL to stick together to negotiate this.
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I believe so. I'm sure the Skywest Pilot group will be making the company well aware of their obligations. It is important for them ALL to stick together to negotiate this.
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OK, this is a rumour network right?
Try this one on for size. A yet to be announced delay in the B787 to J* (and everyone else) will mean J* is "forced" to take ALL the A330's from mainline to service it's expansion.
CCQ and all that.
Mainline gets ALL the B787's when they arrive. Already "Boeing" friendly outfit with experience on similar types.
Jetstar remains all Airbus/CCQ. A330/A320 and whatever else.(A380?)
I know "tell him he's dreamin".
Just a "rumour" I've heard.
Try this one on for size. A yet to be announced delay in the B787 to J* (and everyone else) will mean J* is "forced" to take ALL the A330's from mainline to service it's expansion.
CCQ and all that.
Mainline gets ALL the B787's when they arrive. Already "Boeing" friendly outfit with experience on similar types.
Jetstar remains all Airbus/CCQ. A330/A320 and whatever else.(A380?)
I know "tell him he's dreamin".
Just a "rumour" I've heard.
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yep just like they supported them in hedland and karratha
yep just like they supported them in hedland and karratha
We'll another thing that adds another dimesion is that our good friend Peter Costello said today that JQ want under the forigen ownership laws because it wasnt government owned and never a national airline, so i guess these same rules apply to Skywest about being able to be owned forignley up to the limits set?
Once can of worms after another, think the aviation industry in Aussie is only going to get worst which is a real shame.
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Here endeth the speculation???
"The airline remained silent on its plans, preferring to let its chief do the talking today. Tiger, however, shot down media reports it could form a partnership with the Perth-based Skywest Airlines.
"It is not Tiger Airways' general policy to comment on press speculation but the company can confirm that it is not in any form of discussions with Skywest or its holding company Advent Air," the airline said in a statement."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...524239938.html
"The airline remained silent on its plans, preferring to let its chief do the talking today. Tiger, however, shot down media reports it could form a partnership with the Perth-based Skywest Airlines.
"It is not Tiger Airways' general policy to comment on press speculation but the company can confirm that it is not in any form of discussions with Skywest or its holding company Advent Air," the airline said in a statement."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...524239938.html
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Shot Nancy
As a number of people do on pprune you used a quote out of context.
I meant a modern aircraft such as the 400 ( or such) which I meant compared to the classic.
I meant an aircraft with a modern IFE system that works (SIA) and not runnung on spare parts scavneged out of AVV
As a number of people do on pprune you used a quote out of context.
I meant a modern aircraft such as the 400 ( or such) which I meant compared to the classic.
I meant an aircraft with a modern IFE system that works (SIA) and not runnung on spare parts scavneged out of AVV