Tiger A320s to operate domestic downunder?
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I think you'll find out they pulled out because just about all the flying in and out of there is tied up to contracts and tied up and commited to QF for quite some time. i think you'll find that when these come up things could change.... i hear when people did have the chance to fly with XR they were impressed and enjoyed the experience....
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Check out this page:
http://www.tigerairways.com/oz/ozwelcome.php
There's a few articles in the Australian and SYD Morning Herald too
bne019
http://www.tigerairways.com/oz/ozwelcome.php
There's a few articles in the Australian and SYD Morning Herald too
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If Tiger does compete on the domestic routes it will be interesting to see where they will call home base.
Any airport group/State government offering money to attract them!
Any airport group/State government offering money to attract them!
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Allright, I'll be the first to ask then! Does anyone know much more than me about Tiger (which is nothing). What do they pay? Is the self sponsored endorsement the same as J* (apart from being bulls@#t) or is it partly subsidised? Is the basing in Perth? If anyone is in the know, please post the details as I'm sure others on this thread would be interested to hear that their may be another viable alternative, particularly for someone on the West Coast.
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Perth.....
Perth will see majority of the aircraft as its an ambission to create Perth as a mini hub. Makes logical sence really
Perth - Melbourne
Perth - Sydney
Perth - Brisbane
Need a few more seats
Perth will see majority of the aircraft as its an ambission to create Perth as a mini hub. Makes logical sence really
Perth - Melbourne
Perth - Sydney
Perth - Brisbane
Need a few more seats
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It will be interesting to see what their fares are going to be. It could cause a real headache for Jet* and Virgin Blue.
If you do a mock booking on their website, their 'regular' price PER-SIN is AUD$148 one way - this is cheaper than most domestic flights offered by Jet* and Virgin Blue
Being half owned by SIA, they are coming in with a hell of a lot of resources behind them!
It will be interesting to see what they plan on paying tech & cabin crew
If you do a mock booking on their website, their 'regular' price PER-SIN is AUD$148 one way - this is cheaper than most domestic flights offered by Jet* and Virgin Blue
Being half owned by SIA, they are coming in with a hell of a lot of resources behind them!
It will be interesting to see what they plan on paying tech & cabin crew
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ABC.Net
Friday, February 9, 2007. 10:06am (AEDT)
Company moves to establish third domestic airline
The Singapore-based Tiger Airways says it is getting a positive response from the Federal Government for plans to start competing on Australia's domestic air routes.
Tiger Airways, which is half-owned by Singapore Airlines, has applied for a licence to take on Virgin Blue and the Qantas Group on Australia's domestic routes.
Mr Davis met federal Transport Minister Mark Vaile yesterday.
Tiger Airways already flies between Darwin and Changi Airport and will start a service to Perth next month.
The airline says fares in Australia are too high and has accused Virgin Blue and Qantas of returning to a "cosy duopoly" and increasing fares.
The airline's chief executive officer, Tony Davis, has told ABC Radio's AM program that it expects to be flying Australia's domestic skies before the end of the year.
"The response generally was very favourable but we need to go through the proper processes now with the Federal Government and the regulatory authorities to make sure that we get the licence issued as quickly as we can," he said.
"We've got five new Airbus A-320s ready to bring into Australia as soon as we complete that process."
Mr Davis says the Federal Government understands that competition is good for consumers.
"I think they can see that additional air services, particularly at the affordable fares that Tiger will be bringing into the market, will help stimulate tourism, both domestic and international," he said.
The Federal Transport Minister, Mark Vaile, has welcomed Tiger Airways' plan to operate domestic flights, but says the airline will have to satisfy safety and security requirements.
Mr Vaile says a new entrant could provide increased competition with advantages for consumers, the tourism industry and the economy.
He says Tiger Airways told him it would focus on regional routes, but the company still needs approval from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and the Transport Department.
Tiger Airways says it will discuss with the Northern Territory Government the possibility of Darwin becoming a hub for domestic flights in Australia.
Tiger's NT representative Mildy Raveane says it is possible Darwin will become a major base for the airline.
"We have received an intent from the Minister Paul Henderson sort of suggesting that because of its location and Tiger being in fact its first port of call into Darwin, that's sort of something we've got to start negotiating," he said.
"As you can appreciate every airport in Australia has been in touch with us trying to get the same sort of deal going."
Last month, Tiger Airlines announced it would be flying between Perth and Singapore four times a week from March, before expanding to a daily service in November.
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Friday, February 9, 2007. 10:06am (AEDT)
Company moves to establish third domestic airline
The Singapore-based Tiger Airways says it is getting a positive response from the Federal Government for plans to start competing on Australia's domestic air routes.
Tiger Airways, which is half-owned by Singapore Airlines, has applied for a licence to take on Virgin Blue and the Qantas Group on Australia's domestic routes.
Mr Davis met federal Transport Minister Mark Vaile yesterday.
Tiger Airways already flies between Darwin and Changi Airport and will start a service to Perth next month.
The airline says fares in Australia are too high and has accused Virgin Blue and Qantas of returning to a "cosy duopoly" and increasing fares.
The airline's chief executive officer, Tony Davis, has told ABC Radio's AM program that it expects to be flying Australia's domestic skies before the end of the year.
"The response generally was very favourable but we need to go through the proper processes now with the Federal Government and the regulatory authorities to make sure that we get the licence issued as quickly as we can," he said.
"We've got five new Airbus A-320s ready to bring into Australia as soon as we complete that process."
Mr Davis says the Federal Government understands that competition is good for consumers.
"I think they can see that additional air services, particularly at the affordable fares that Tiger will be bringing into the market, will help stimulate tourism, both domestic and international," he said.
The Federal Transport Minister, Mark Vaile, has welcomed Tiger Airways' plan to operate domestic flights, but says the airline will have to satisfy safety and security requirements.
Mr Vaile says a new entrant could provide increased competition with advantages for consumers, the tourism industry and the economy.
He says Tiger Airways told him it would focus on regional routes, but the company still needs approval from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and the Transport Department.
Tiger Airways says it will discuss with the Northern Territory Government the possibility of Darwin becoming a hub for domestic flights in Australia.
Tiger's NT representative Mildy Raveane says it is possible Darwin will become a major base for the airline.
"We have received an intent from the Minister Paul Henderson sort of suggesting that because of its location and Tiger being in fact its first port of call into Darwin, that's sort of something we've got to start negotiating," he said.
"As you can appreciate every airport in Australia has been in touch with us trying to get the same sort of deal going."
Last month, Tiger Airlines announced it would be flying between Perth and Singapore four times a week from March, before expanding to a daily service in November.
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Tiger Airways does operate a self-sponsored training program for pilots not qualified on type.....................NO paying for endorsement BUT.....5 year bond with a bank guarantee for AUD20,000 reducing each year.................
Capts AUD 135000 F/Os AUD 72000...........o/t after 75 hours.(250/hr capts....145/hr f/os)........... flat meal allowance rate of AUD210 per day/part thereof.......42 days a/l and 9 days off /month at home base (depending on pairing ,could be 9 straight or 4/5,3/6 etc,(BUT ALL at home!)........uniform IS provided and the rest is industry standard....recruiting starts after approval of AOC....but acceptiong EOI now..........good luck.
Capts AUD 135000 F/Os AUD 72000...........o/t after 75 hours.(250/hr capts....145/hr f/os)........... flat meal allowance rate of AUD210 per day/part thereof.......42 days a/l and 9 days off /month at home base (depending on pairing ,could be 9 straight or 4/5,3/6 etc,(BUT ALL at home!)........uniform IS provided and the rest is industry standard....recruiting starts after approval of AOC....but acceptiong EOI now..........good luck.
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Enema Bandit....doesn't surprise me, they do funny things after the labotomy kicks in those J* guys...just ask them how great J* is...you'll end up rolling on the floor in laughter.
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457 visa
The latest crop of pilots entering the "established" airlines are Metro, Dash. Saab drivers etc. Majority very capable. There have been a few from lower down our industrial tree, Caravan drivers. Who have also done well. This to illustrate that the pool is slowly drying up.
J* A 320 B787, Virgin E190, to recruit heavily over coming period.
Where next?
Wait for it! Lack of skilled people!
The 457 Visa. This will allow foriegn workers to work in Oz as it has done in other industries.
J* A 320 B787, Virgin E190, to recruit heavily over coming period.
Where next?
Wait for it! Lack of skilled people!
The 457 Visa. This will allow foriegn workers to work in Oz as it has done in other industries.
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Curious
The 457 Visa. This will allow foriegn workers to work in Oz as it has done in other industries.
HACS, IASCO, PARC & IACglobal seem can't seem to find them judging by the emails and websites offering US$8000 +per diem +pension per month for FO positions.
In case you might might be tempted to think they will come from China, I suspect you may well find the flow going the other way. I recently heard one Oz training organisation was asked by the Chinese if they could train 700 students per year (the couldn't).
Learning to fly is essentially denominated in US$/euro costs (fuel, aircraft, parts, simulators) not local currency. That is, training has a first world cost base no matter where it is undertaken, and hence is prohibitively expensive to all but the very wealthy (why would they?) and those selected, trained and bonded for extended periods to airlines or the military.
You may have also seen, Indian firms are recruiting ozzies in the computer HERE.
IMHO, I wouldn't worry just yet, Australia & the US are two of the cheapest places to learn to fly. If we are short...
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"Thank goodness for J* ! In place to protect QF from competition like this. Can you imagine QF competing with 2 low cost airlines VB and Tiger ?"
Isnt that the grand plan for QF, sell it for lots of $$$ then leave it to rot? When all the "important people" have lined their own nests? Greed: yes, good business practise, looking after staff and shareholders: I think not...
Isnt that the grand plan for QF, sell it for lots of $$$ then leave it to rot? When all the "important people" have lined their own nests? Greed: yes, good business practise, looking after staff and shareholders: I think not...
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And for some of you knockers http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=139114