BoganAir and Mr Eslake
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While we're at it Mr. EWL I apologise for any negative sentiment I may have expressed. I get a bit defensive to hear people described as bogans, because where I grew up there were plenty. None of my mates are standing in line at centrelink, most of them work hard and have sound morals. They tile your house and put your doors on. They may even service your fine automobile. They sometimes may not appear that sharp, but you can't always judge a book by it's cover. Either way your frustrations were evident and I hope you don't get too many calls from anyone who costs you money by wasting your time by not helping themselves.
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Whiskey Oscar Golf - Thanks mate.
I don't think it was me that initially dragged the B word into the discussion but that doesn't matter. Non so called bogans are probably a bigger source of angst in regard to what we have been discussing.
We do a heap of bookings for the local Holden HSV/Ford jacket wearing crowd, treat them as well as we can and they come back. They trust us and I have had many a beer at the RSL with ladies and gents I have made bookings for. In a lot of ways I am a bogan I suppose. Much rather have a beer than a chardie!!!
I stand in awe of any of the great guys who can run a diagnostic on the 300zx and then act on the codes the car gives them.
I can construct a price killer fare anywhere, but I am damned if I can find even a plug lead under the bonnet of the Z. They never went to Uni (nor did I) but they are geniuses in my mind.
I was born and bred in the South Eastern suburbs of Melbourne but went to school with may "wogs" who were great mates, many yiddish kids who were the same and even the odd Asian kid in those days. Bogans did not come into the mix, but after 30 years in service industry in DPO I think I now have all bases covered.
Right down to a bloke and someone elses wife coming blasting in to the carpark at Wynyard in a 351 falcon Superbird with one mag on fire due to it blowing a tyre through Hellyer Gorge closely followed by a very irate hubby in a V8 Charger.
That was an interesting depatch - nearly as interesting as the fight beforehand!
No apology is required mate.
I sticketh out chin - I deserveth to be tapped.
Best regards
EWL
I don't think it was me that initially dragged the B word into the discussion but that doesn't matter. Non so called bogans are probably a bigger source of angst in regard to what we have been discussing.
We do a heap of bookings for the local Holden HSV/Ford jacket wearing crowd, treat them as well as we can and they come back. They trust us and I have had many a beer at the RSL with ladies and gents I have made bookings for. In a lot of ways I am a bogan I suppose. Much rather have a beer than a chardie!!!
I stand in awe of any of the great guys who can run a diagnostic on the 300zx and then act on the codes the car gives them.
I can construct a price killer fare anywhere, but I am damned if I can find even a plug lead under the bonnet of the Z. They never went to Uni (nor did I) but they are geniuses in my mind.
I was born and bred in the South Eastern suburbs of Melbourne but went to school with may "wogs" who were great mates, many yiddish kids who were the same and even the odd Asian kid in those days. Bogans did not come into the mix, but after 30 years in service industry in DPO I think I now have all bases covered.
Right down to a bloke and someone elses wife coming blasting in to the carpark at Wynyard in a 351 falcon Superbird with one mag on fire due to it blowing a tyre through Hellyer Gorge closely followed by a very irate hubby in a V8 Charger.
That was an interesting depatch - nearly as interesting as the fight beforehand!
No apology is required mate.
I sticketh out chin - I deserveth to be tapped.
Best regards
EWL
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Good Bogans
I LOVE Bogans......otherwise I'd still be in a Metro!
But you have 2 different scales of Bogans....
"Dead Set Bogan's"...Don't wash, don't know about the nice smelly stuff to put under their slowly infesting armpits, turn up for a flight in bare feet and no top (plus a mullet if your lucky), ask "Hows yuse doin?" and picks his/her nose and while wiping it on the arm rest is yelling at her/his 3 kids under 5 who in their own right could be confused with ferral rats with "shut up or I'II bash ya again"!
Then we have....
"Ausssie Bogans"... Might be wearing their St Albans runners (that's the furry little open ugboots worn in Melb's Western Suburbs) and sporting a Salvo's special shirt .....but in essence are Patriotic, decent people that will stop when you break down in the scrub or happy to lend you a hand.
I once did a Red Shield appeal collecting $ at an intersection in Melbourne in South yarra (which for non-Aussies is a National drive for funds on a Particular day for a worthwhile cause).
And it was the BMW's the Jags and the Lexus drivers who wouldn't lower their windows yet an Auusie bogan in his/her rusting corrolla who would throw $10 at you....!
Don't mock "ya bread an butta" too much boys!!
P.s..I have had to pax next to the nose picking ones and its a 1st hand account!
But you have 2 different scales of Bogans....
"Dead Set Bogan's"...Don't wash, don't know about the nice smelly stuff to put under their slowly infesting armpits, turn up for a flight in bare feet and no top (plus a mullet if your lucky), ask "Hows yuse doin?" and picks his/her nose and while wiping it on the arm rest is yelling at her/his 3 kids under 5 who in their own right could be confused with ferral rats with "shut up or I'II bash ya again"!
Then we have....
"Ausssie Bogans"... Might be wearing their St Albans runners (that's the furry little open ugboots worn in Melb's Western Suburbs) and sporting a Salvo's special shirt .....but in essence are Patriotic, decent people that will stop when you break down in the scrub or happy to lend you a hand.
I once did a Red Shield appeal collecting $ at an intersection in Melbourne in South yarra (which for non-Aussies is a National drive for funds on a Particular day for a worthwhile cause).
And it was the BMW's the Jags and the Lexus drivers who wouldn't lower their windows yet an Auusie bogan in his/her rusting corrolla who would throw $10 at you....!
Don't mock "ya bread an butta" too much boys!!
P.s..I have had to pax next to the nose picking ones and its a 1st hand account!
EWL
You did very well my friend, all your points are valid, keep it up. As for Maui and the other baggers - lay off. Put yourself in his shoes.
AnQrKa said earlier Australia is a bogan country. Spot on - I'm afraid sometimes one has to leave our beautiful country to realise the full extent of it. As an expat in HK, I can tell you the first couple of years are very difficult, there is the culture shock of things being done differently and there is the intense missing of home. But almost every man to a tee, including myself, readily admits that the more one returns to Oz the less one likes it. Why - the people.
Two years ago my wife and I took our two kids ten pin bowling in Oz. A local high school was having a break up day there. About 50 or 60 15 and 16 year olds. Their behaviour - disgusting. Swearing, groping chicks, even spitting inside. Just don't see that in HKG. Went to Brisbane last December - went to a local park, full of bogans with rats tails, tatts, swearing, spitting, smoking, drinking, abusing people. Great day out for my kids.
Yep its bogan alright. Bogan does not mean, poor, lower socio economic. It would more corrctly be defined as "freakin ars#hole who gives a sh!t about no-one."
Right - now who will be the first obvious moron to come back with "well if you don't like it don't come back." I love Oz, it is my home, just don't like a HUUUUUGE percentage of the people.
Trev
You did very well my friend, all your points are valid, keep it up. As for Maui and the other baggers - lay off. Put yourself in his shoes.
AnQrKa said earlier Australia is a bogan country. Spot on - I'm afraid sometimes one has to leave our beautiful country to realise the full extent of it. As an expat in HK, I can tell you the first couple of years are very difficult, there is the culture shock of things being done differently and there is the intense missing of home. But almost every man to a tee, including myself, readily admits that the more one returns to Oz the less one likes it. Why - the people.
Two years ago my wife and I took our two kids ten pin bowling in Oz. A local high school was having a break up day there. About 50 or 60 15 and 16 year olds. Their behaviour - disgusting. Swearing, groping chicks, even spitting inside. Just don't see that in HKG. Went to Brisbane last December - went to a local park, full of bogans with rats tails, tatts, swearing, spitting, smoking, drinking, abusing people. Great day out for my kids.
Yep its bogan alright. Bogan does not mean, poor, lower socio economic. It would more corrctly be defined as "freakin ars#hole who gives a sh!t about no-one."
Right - now who will be the first obvious moron to come back with "well if you don't like it don't come back." I love Oz, it is my home, just don't like a HUUUUUGE percentage of the people.
Trev
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Trevor, I'm a big fan of Honkers too. Even got married there. But to get away from the type of f@ckwits you describe, you need to get out of the capital cities and go bush.
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I wonder how many 'boguns' spilt blood defending 'OUR' country? I am sure their socioeconomic status was not a factor in eventually helping to free many of Mr Eastlakes people.
Last I checked thier money was the same colour.
No, I would not particularly like to sit next to Kenny on Jetstar (or any other airline). But sure as hell I would rather sit next to a good bloke in King Gee's than some pompus pwrick who spent the flight looking down his nose at me.
P.S. Saul is chief economist for the ANZ. Keynes would be horrified !
Last I checked thier money was the same colour.
No, I would not particularly like to sit next to Kenny on Jetstar (or any other airline). But sure as hell I would rather sit next to a good bloke in King Gee's than some pompus pwrick who spent the flight looking down his nose at me.
P.S. Saul is chief economist for the ANZ. Keynes would be horrified !
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Longjohn - that was my late dad's nickname in the RAAF. Like it! Wear it well.
There is nothing I enjoy more than sending "bogans" families on the holiday of a lifetime.
It may be Gold Coast or LAX and Vegas. Normally we direct them as to what to do and see and with the US add the very cheap Vegas addon into the mix if it fits the budget.
Almost without exception they come back into the office with wide eyes and huge smiles to say thank you. That makes me feel great! if you don't get blown away by the Star Trek Experience ride at the Las Vegas Hilton, there is no hope for you.
However there are different levels in "Bouganville". There are the hard working bogans who do a job and do it damned well. We all rely on them and the skill levels we could never get a handle on, and the life support systems for genitals who hump frantically at the first mention of a new subsidy for having more kids.
I will be seeing my favourite bogans tomorrow - the Z car doctors - to solve a slight smoke problem from the right bank of cylinders, and I am a stranger in a strange land there.
A new turbine in my future I feel.
Today was busy, but we only had 5 calls from the dark side including one who said to my office manager "Is that Jet thingy? - ya know - the airline?"
Maybe we can top up resources by applying for an open ended carers pension.
It is getting horribly close to a full moon though.
Ah well - the Loco Bloko and Mrs Loco are off to the cricket in MEL at the weekend. Oh - and so are the Z keys. 22 year old son is home and puppy sitting. I am a lot of things, but thick apart from stature is not one of them!
Best all
EWL
There is nothing I enjoy more than sending "bogans" families on the holiday of a lifetime.
It may be Gold Coast or LAX and Vegas. Normally we direct them as to what to do and see and with the US add the very cheap Vegas addon into the mix if it fits the budget.
Almost without exception they come back into the office with wide eyes and huge smiles to say thank you. That makes me feel great! if you don't get blown away by the Star Trek Experience ride at the Las Vegas Hilton, there is no hope for you.
However there are different levels in "Bouganville". There are the hard working bogans who do a job and do it damned well. We all rely on them and the skill levels we could never get a handle on, and the life support systems for genitals who hump frantically at the first mention of a new subsidy for having more kids.
I will be seeing my favourite bogans tomorrow - the Z car doctors - to solve a slight smoke problem from the right bank of cylinders, and I am a stranger in a strange land there.
A new turbine in my future I feel.
Today was busy, but we only had 5 calls from the dark side including one who said to my office manager "Is that Jet thingy? - ya know - the airline?"
Maybe we can top up resources by applying for an open ended carers pension.
It is getting horribly close to a full moon though.
Ah well - the Loco Bloko and Mrs Loco are off to the cricket in MEL at the weekend. Oh - and so are the Z keys. 22 year old son is home and puppy sitting. I am a lot of things, but thick apart from stature is not one of them!
Best all
EWL
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My comments re bogans was in no way intended to be derogatory.
Some of the finest people I know are bogans. When life is all about the footy scores and personalised number plates on your HDT Commodore that say Macca, then life is not all that bad.
The anti bogan brigade are simply annoyed to see air travel become something that more than just the elite can enjoy.
Trevor, my name on pprune is a dead giveaway as to my locale. Every country has its bogans, even HKG. The difference being that you and I dont generally sit down for a home cooked meal with the local equevelant.
My perspective - having been out of oz for 5 years, I miss the blue skies and the fresh air and the open spaces and SYD harbor and the colors and the contrasting shadows that you dont get in HKG/China BUT I find ozmates to be living in the industrial relations dark ages and in an employment/benefits environment that will not last. I enjoyed such an environment and would love to see it continue but the awakening dragon (and India/Vietnam etc) will quickly force its version of reality on all highly unionised western nations such as oz no matter how unfare it may appear.
Ozmates need to get smart and pragmatic or risk becoming a third world nation. Howard knows this almost as much as Keating did. Dixon knows this.
Some of the finest people I know are bogans. When life is all about the footy scores and personalised number plates on your HDT Commodore that say Macca, then life is not all that bad.
The anti bogan brigade are simply annoyed to see air travel become something that more than just the elite can enjoy.
Trevor, my name on pprune is a dead giveaway as to my locale. Every country has its bogans, even HKG. The difference being that you and I dont generally sit down for a home cooked meal with the local equevelant.
My perspective - having been out of oz for 5 years, I miss the blue skies and the fresh air and the open spaces and SYD harbor and the colors and the contrasting shadows that you dont get in HKG/China BUT I find ozmates to be living in the industrial relations dark ages and in an employment/benefits environment that will not last. I enjoyed such an environment and would love to see it continue but the awakening dragon (and India/Vietnam etc) will quickly force its version of reality on all highly unionised western nations such as oz no matter how unfare it may appear.
Ozmates need to get smart and pragmatic or risk becoming a third world nation. Howard knows this almost as much as Keating did. Dixon knows this.
AnQrKa,
Beg to differ Bro. I can guarantee that if I have a day out in Oz I will find without trying some spitting, belching, bundy rum tee shirt wearing feral with a scraggly goatee swearing and cussing while just "hangin around" waiting for the next dole cheque. It could be in a local park, the shops, at a sporting event - anywhere.
NEVER in HK have I been to shops, parks or ANYWHERE where I have seen what I would call a bogan-la. Think I've seen one piece of graffiti in my whole time here, and none of it on a train. Never seen a ripped seat on a train, and i've even had local youth give up their seats for my kids.
Anal, difficult, illogocal, blinkered and some may stupid, they may be. But they are not bogans.
Trev.
PS - would you be JP?
Beg to differ Bro. I can guarantee that if I have a day out in Oz I will find without trying some spitting, belching, bundy rum tee shirt wearing feral with a scraggly goatee swearing and cussing while just "hangin around" waiting for the next dole cheque. It could be in a local park, the shops, at a sporting event - anywhere.
NEVER in HK have I been to shops, parks or ANYWHERE where I have seen what I would call a bogan-la. Think I've seen one piece of graffiti in my whole time here, and none of it on a train. Never seen a ripped seat on a train, and i've even had local youth give up their seats for my kids.
Anal, difficult, illogocal, blinkered and some may stupid, they may be. But they are not bogans.
Trev.
PS - would you be JP?
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Well, look...this is all well and good the stuff you O/seas blokes are all going on about. And most of it is true!
But, hey...been there done that!
When you wander back to Oz...as you know you will...
You'll be glad you're back, no matter what you're saying now!
But, hey...been there done that!
When you wander back to Oz...as you know you will...
You'll be glad you're back, no matter what you're saying now!
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Trev,
now the guvmint is givin em $4 grand to have a kid they are breeding at an amazingly fast rate! Next thing ya know we might have one in parlyment -or even prime minsta. I mean it nearly almost happend with that Mark Latham bloke didn't it??
now the guvmint is givin em $4 grand to have a kid they are breeding at an amazingly fast rate! Next thing ya know we might have one in parlyment -or even prime minsta. I mean it nearly almost happend with that Mark Latham bloke didn't it??
