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Old 26th Jan 2007, 01:38
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Another extremely irritating habit of the bogan is that no one had told them that there is no plural of the personal pronoun "You" or the word "All"

I notice that some Cabin Crew are also ignorant of the above fact ...... not a good advertisement for the recruiters .......

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Old 26th Jan 2007, 02:27
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Oh my god....I drive an XD Falcon!!!....I'm a Bogan!!
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 02:51
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Captn Jack,
If your referring to my post.
In English grammar, generic you or indefinite you is the use of the pronoun you to refer to an unspecified person. Generic one is the use of one in the same way. Wikipedia
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Given your definatition of a Bogan, I'm impressed that our mate EWL was able to determine this was such a character who had contacted him in error.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 03:15
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Dog: was not referring to your post but thanks for the info. I used to use the generic "one" in speech and written word rather than "you" and still think it is more correct but, idiomatically, the generic you is now very much in use. I get laughed at if I use "one" instead of "you" now .........

However people should never say "youse" or "alls" and if they persist with it should be horsewhipped and press-ganged on to my next ship bound for elocution lessons in the Pacific (inbetween Pirating episodes)

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PS. Let's not start on the use of "who" and "whom" and the possesive apostrophe!
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 04:43
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Can someone please tell me the connection between cricketers, baggy greens and bogans as somebody else mention above in a previous post.

I went to a wedding reception somewhere behind the Brekkie Creek Hotel in Brisbane at Allan Border Oval which was in, you guessed it, in Bogan Street Albion.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 05:14
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MB, I think what they meant was Bogans are as Aussie as Cricket, baggy green cap etc etc. Not a thing on which one should dwell ..............
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 05:36
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Please, Please, Please Miss B.
One may enter Allan Border field via Queens Rd. or even Royal Tce, but never ever ever by Bogan St.
(Especially so for a young lady with an intact reputation)
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 05:48
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Bogan Air?????

Featuring Szubanksi as ‘Julie the Jetstar Girl’ the new integrated campaign follows the story of Julie as she transforms from “the girl who has never left Inglewood to a national jetsetter” thanks to the every day low fares of Jetstar.



Nah, couldn't be!!!!!!!
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 07:12
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Ahh BSD, thankyou for proving my point. According to the Dictionary of Australian Colloquialisms by G.A. Wilkes, a bogan is "anyone stupid, square or a nerd" It goes further to say " Bogans mostly live in the western suburbs of Melbourne (sunfish leave it alone) and in some particularly dead country towns. They carry baseball bats and wear flannelette, red checked shirts. For entertainment, they get drunk or high and beat up yuppies and big watch, serengeti wearing pilots" My italics. This was published in todays West Australian Liberal. It also comes from the Gaelic, meaning Dirty.
I can understand your fear BSD we are often afraid of what we don't understand. I hope that EWL is tooling along some lonely Tasmanian road one day and the GPS in the Audi craps out and he asks his bogan family man for directions who promptly sends him into the ocean. Somehow I think bogan family man will be kinder to EWL than EWL was to him, but hey you can't buy kindness.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 08:23
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Thumbs Up - I do admit these idiots do drag the bastard out of me, but my staff and I are sick of fielding calls from people who cannot even drive a phone book and also cost me on the incoming 1800 call. They also quite often get abusive when their error is pointed out in around one third of calls.

Wonderful SLF for our good friends in cabin crew to have to deal with.
If that clown cannot even get his crap together to call an airline, what is he doing booking online. Webjet has higher service addons than I do. It is all "sucked in by the marketing" crap. Flight Centre if approached as a first stop is way higher in service charges and the staff do only have a minor clue if the fare is not a 2 sector return. Marketing marketing bloody marketing.

If he had have called us (I cannot speak for other agents as to booking fees) the maximum would have been $40.00 per person over and above the online fee.

For that you get a check that your passport validity is OK, advice re incoming and outgoing visa and departure fees and a 24/7 emergency after hours number to call when little Johny gets bitten by a monkey he prodded at Sangeh and the travel insurance you were offered was refused.

It is true Thumbs Up. I did get the call. That is what I told him. No apologies from me. If you ring Maccas to complain about your KFC Burger, expect erronious information in return.

Quite frankly we are sick of dickheads who book on line and call us for help as well as those life support systems for genitals who do not even know who they booked with or how to bloody spell it.

Holiday of a lifetime?

Bali will be richer for them not being there.

I do however apologise in advance for any drama I cause at MELKKJQ - having had it done to me on numerous occasions I should not have done it, but was at bogan overload point which is just one notch below justifiable homicide when I got the call.

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Old 26th Jan 2007, 09:24
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WOG, My pain is the one I get from morons who try to make their problem, my problem without trying to help themselves first. If companies/people such as BOGAN-AIR want to use the internet for their bookings to keep their costs down, good luck to them, but YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Ie. If you want to drive a bogan car, then get used to pushing it.
EWL alias RK, I feel your pain - from a little eenie-weenie fokker f/o of yesteryear. (We only ever met, by holding one or two fingers up over the combing before all the kero induced noise started.)
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 12:05
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Thanks BSD and EWL I now appreciate your problem is not with our desert boot wearing, HQ Monaro driving cousins, but stupid people. I can now understand and empathise with your frusrations. The problems appear to lie with our new found ability to do things with a computer while not fully coming to grips with the complexities of air travel. I still do not think this problem is limited to those individuals previously referred to as Bogans, it may very well occur more with the BMW, Prada set also. Good luck dealing with people who don't have the nous to organise their holiday of a lifetime in Kuta.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 20:44
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Slowbowlers drive Beamers and turn left at the cabin door as well ya know.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 21:56
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Bogans - according to Queenslanders come from the certain suburbs of Melbourne or country Victoria.

Westies - are the NSW equivilant.

In Qld, we have Bevans, but the influx of mexicans to our great state has meant that we actually know, and have bogans here too, apparently.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 22:31
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EWL

Thank you for reminding me why I avoid using agents where possible. Are you perhaps in training for a customer service appointment with Telstra or QANTAS.

You are in a service industry. Take the good with he bad. Provide a service or advice with a smile and be helpful to all. You never know, that "bogan" may have a memory and may have friends. Guess which helpful agency he will not be recommending.
If the margins are not good enough for you get the **** out of the business. But don't bitch about it or take it out on the misguided of our tribe.

Really dissappointed, as in the past I have enjoyed a lot of your contributions.

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Old 26th Jan 2007, 23:43
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Yes but judging by your previous posts you work for Jetstar so you would say all that
I think he's a peanut pusher @ QF now.
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Old 27th Jan 2007, 04:38
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Point well taken Maui, and yes - what I did was extremely poor "customer" care.

You have the intellect to book online. or with an agent without having the keyboard disabled by saliva, and also have the nouse to know who you are calling and can use a phonebook.

When your busy day gets constant and at times abusive interventions from the "shallow end" that also costs you money in 1800 charges, we reserve the right to occasionally get bent out of shape.

As for the Telstra etc reference, I do not make unsolicited calls to anyone, and my genuine existing and prospective clients get the best possible care.

Unlike the internet, I can be called at all hours if things go pear shaped for a client.

I am not a "boganophile" as many of my clients a professional surfers who are dedicated athletes, but can be a little short on common sense and need to be pulled out of the poo at all hours of the night in locations I initially had to look up.

This idiot was not my client so I had no duty of care.

I respect your call as to not using Travel Agents. Many people do that.
When it all goes pear shaped in the middle of nowhere, what are you going to do? Call the Internet? It has an unlisted number and does not care.

I will probably not ever do the same thing again, but when you are in the middle of an ugly mileage fare construction that has taken 2 hours and cop a life support system for a dick calling in on your toll free number for something that has nothing at all to do with you, happy nice thoughts go West.

Sorry if I offended you with the original post Maui. I have a very high flash point, and this dude got past it.

Oh yes - and Whiskey Oscar Golf - you will not find me in an Audi - ever! I have a 1992 300ZX twin turbo that I adore. It cost me a whole $11,000 and I have spent another $4000 on her to ensure all belts and bits were up to spec. 94000kms on the girl. I have no GPS. The newer Z is courtesy of my late father. He passed away in June last year and loved the '84 with the tops out. He would have enjoyed the Z32 he bought for me.

As for being an uncaring arsehole (not said, but implied) , you might ask the little old lady that we took in to our office after she face planted the hotmix outside our office and opened up her scalp if my staff and I care about people. She was well cared for and the paramedics that took her away were well pleased as she was. Lovely old lady came back in after she was OK to say thanks. I try to be a decent human being at most times. Sometimes I drop the ball but my wife and spaniel still love me.

There are 2 subspecies now mate. Us and them - the them part of the equation is well aware of where the Centrelink office is and how to drag the maximum dollar out of it. I am sure you would have trouble telling someone where the nearest one was as I would.

The Us part of the deal pays for it.

Best regards
Ron
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Old 28th Jan 2007, 06:31
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Originally Posted by Back Seat Driver
• A particular choice in motor vehicle. The bogan usually drives one of two makes of vehicle. Typically this is either a Holden Commodore (VB-VP models)or a Ford Falcon (all models up to the recent EF
Working at a certain automotive retailer in a working class suburb of Melbourne I can attest to your whole post,lol..... Though with the above you'll also find them in cars up to the VS and AU (but not series II)... You'll also find them driving, clapped out 89' Honda Preludes 'tricked' out with 'fully sick' stickers and crappy cheap seat covers (not thats fancy!)

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Old 28th Jan 2007, 10:32
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Good on you EWL.

Always there with a funny and oft' well thought out post.

I think Maui must have been the guy who called you as he can't seem to get past it.

I'm still laughing.

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Old 28th Jan 2007, 11:02
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Thanks GUARD, but it was pretty poor form on my part.

Generally I bite my tongue but I lost it in this case and went the full mongrel.

I appreciate your sentiments and cannot say that if the same circumstance presented that I would not have gone exactly the same way even with 20/20 hindsight.

Maui also intimated that if he margins are not good enough - get out. Also a good call. The industry is not brilliant, but our Corporate and niche market involvement makes it viable. As I said I drive a sports car. An $11,000 sports car and love it to death. If it does not have a Z on the nose, I do not want to know it. Simple tastes.

The Agency has funded one son through Uni in Hobart and is funding the second along with all the accommodation and car costs involved. Travel has been good to me (despite 3 retrenchments and 3 airlines) for 30 years and Airline was my first love for as long as I can remember, right back to Santa arriving at Essendon in VH-THA (or B before it was abandoned in the Antarctic). This is as close as I can get these days, but I am still there. Sort of.

I despair at what has happened to the industry and to you good left and right seaters. Boomer Collins (TN) was my pseudo Uncle and still is my hero long beyond his passing.

We all get on with it.

I just hope Maui will cut me enough slack to allow one act of bastardry in an office that gets monstered with online mistakes, no baggage screams and questions relating to bookings we have not had any hand in.

My clients are my life, and these Wallies eat up time we should be using to service them.

Best regards

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