Exodus from Skippers (Merged)
Q4,
The deal with this "company" is simple.
It looks and sounds ok, but when you really get to know what they are like you will do what almost everybody is currently doing and that is start looking elsewhere. The bond is keeping people there until it is at a level which is not going to send them broke.
T & C fade into irrelevance once you have dealt with them for a while.
Don't do it my friend!!
The deal with this "company" is simple.
It looks and sounds ok, but when you really get to know what they are like you will do what almost everybody is currently doing and that is start looking elsewhere. The bond is keeping people there until it is at a level which is not going to send them broke.
T & C fade into irrelevance once you have dealt with them for a while.
Don't do it my friend!!
Seasonally Adjusted
you'd get that flying a C310 for Slingair with a few hours under your belt ($80K plus super according to latest advert).
One of my buddies who works for skippers says the dash fo's are being worked like slaves. They seem to be doing long duty periods every day because there arent enough of them. Where did they all go was there another exodus?
On a slightly different note, did anyone else with super at TAIST experience a sharp intake of breath when reading the names of the directors in the latest report? I am informed that our former colleague from Skippers has "very little to do with the performance of the superannuation plan" and will soon be forced to exit the organisation due to the nature of his appointment. Phew!
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one of my best mates is an FO on the dash fleet, there has been a little movement around, several FO's upgraded to commands, one or two moved on to much better things (gocat) and a one on leave at the moment in the UK. I wouldnt say they are being worked like dogs but most of them are seeing 9 days flying a fortnight with maybe 1 or 2 doubles. The rosters are still pretty liquid but it doesnt seem to bother him to much at the moment.
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Hey guys, as this thread has sort of come back to life, I was wondering how things are going down at Skippy’s town.
What’s the current time to command for the Braz and Dash boys/girls? (Have they employed any girls lately?)
How is recruitment going in the current economic climate, has it stopped, are layoffs on the cards?
And finally,
How is staff morale at the moment, T&C’s etc, with little movement in the industry how do people feel about spending a little longer at this company than they may have originally planned?
Cheers,
MB
What’s the current time to command for the Braz and Dash boys/girls? (Have they employed any girls lately?)
How is recruitment going in the current economic climate, has it stopped, are layoffs on the cards?
And finally,
How is staff morale at the moment, T&C’s etc, with little movement in the industry how do people feel about spending a little longer at this company than they may have originally planned?
Cheers,
MB
The time to Command is still generally around the 12 month and maybe even less still. Interestingly when you go back maybe the last 2 years of threads sorrounding Skippers you will get the obvious impression they are on there knees and about to close the doors....but as with just about every company that gets given this tag they keep going and going. For a company that has battled to keep pilots in the breezway they aren't likely to lay any off...that would be a little premature in my opinion.
As much as the downturn is going to slow mining work down across the board in Perth you will find that have a couple of Dash 100's sitting on the ground will have less of an impact than a jet with a couple of engines at the back. I think also that they are in a fairly good spot to ride out the downturn and if you get a slot regardless you will have a good chance of progression within the company.
Yes they have employed females in the past and there is as far as I know a couple still in the company. I guess morale depends on what YOU make of it. I had a great time there and alot of my mates still there are enjoying it. Yes, people have been "done over" in the past but I am sure that happens in alot of companies (refer to Skywest thread).
The contract / bonding stuff has changed many times even when I was there so that I cannot help with to give an accurate idea however it works for some and not others. It may seem a little harsh if in your plans you are deciding to leave at the first sniff of a better job but if you are committed to putting in 2 or 3 years with the chance of early progression then it is a stable safe job. (Stable doesn't represent the roster mind you...that hasn't changed from what ive heard)
Most of this is a little bias because I really enjoyed my time there however I also respect that some people have not had the same level of job satisfaction or had a difficult departure from the company. Get the facts, read the contract and good luck
As much as the downturn is going to slow mining work down across the board in Perth you will find that have a couple of Dash 100's sitting on the ground will have less of an impact than a jet with a couple of engines at the back. I think also that they are in a fairly good spot to ride out the downturn and if you get a slot regardless you will have a good chance of progression within the company.
Yes they have employed females in the past and there is as far as I know a couple still in the company. I guess morale depends on what YOU make of it. I had a great time there and alot of my mates still there are enjoying it. Yes, people have been "done over" in the past but I am sure that happens in alot of companies (refer to Skywest thread).
The contract / bonding stuff has changed many times even when I was there so that I cannot help with to give an accurate idea however it works for some and not others. It may seem a little harsh if in your plans you are deciding to leave at the first sniff of a better job but if you are committed to putting in 2 or 3 years with the chance of early progression then it is a stable safe job. (Stable doesn't represent the roster mind you...that hasn't changed from what ive heard)
Most of this is a little bias because I really enjoyed my time there however I also respect that some people have not had the same level of job satisfaction or had a difficult departure from the company. Get the facts, read the contract and good luck
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Firstly... Healy!!!! now there is a name that still freaks me out, for someone who hasnt been around for almost 12 months the fear has not left the building.
secondly MB and AUS, as apposed to the above mentioned i do work at this place at this time and do enjoy it quite a bit, the time to command is very dependant on exp, you could walk into a command if the time was right but i think there might be a number of FO's at least in the dash fleet required but talking to the D8 fleet mgr he is looking for 20 capts and fo's and they are well short there.
We have 3 girls in at present, one metro and one D8, and one c441 in Broome
Recruitment is still on the go i was told today, more capts and fo's starting on the d8 fleet in the next few months and couple on the bras.
staff morale is pretty good throughout both fleets you mentioned and the metro fleet is really pretty good. T&C's have not changed much in the last 12 months and i don’t think people are that concerned about staying a little longer, most people are enjoying the flying, couple have issues with scheduling (which has been going on for years) and also a couple of issues with ops, but really the job is what you make it, and it has potential to be pretty good really.
I think the company is really set well to weather the current economic environment, a lot of the contracts are pretty safe, and any shrinkage would probably be small and suit the company as it is pretty tight for crews.
secondly MB and AUS, as apposed to the above mentioned i do work at this place at this time and do enjoy it quite a bit, the time to command is very dependant on exp, you could walk into a command if the time was right but i think there might be a number of FO's at least in the dash fleet required but talking to the D8 fleet mgr he is looking for 20 capts and fo's and they are well short there.
We have 3 girls in at present, one metro and one D8, and one c441 in Broome
Recruitment is still on the go i was told today, more capts and fo's starting on the d8 fleet in the next few months and couple on the bras.
staff morale is pretty good throughout both fleets you mentioned and the metro fleet is really pretty good. T&C's have not changed much in the last 12 months and i don’t think people are that concerned about staying a little longer, most people are enjoying the flying, couple have issues with scheduling (which has been going on for years) and also a couple of issues with ops, but really the job is what you make it, and it has potential to be pretty good really.
I think the company is really set well to weather the current economic environment, a lot of the contracts are pretty safe, and any shrinkage would probably be small and suit the company as it is pretty tight for crews.
I didn't scare anyone that much did I? Ah who am I kidding. Things certainly sound a little more stable than 18 months ago when the grim reaper turned up at the end of month bbq's and meat raffle
Oh! now I understand..no I not "THAT" Healy
Oh! now I understand..no I not "THAT" Healy
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Healy you did scare me a bit with your jokes.
Is there an truth ti the rumour that M.C the head of flight ops is gone and the ato that flies both dash and bras is now him????? you know the dude that really hates the word " noted "
Is there an truth ti the rumour that M.C the head of flight ops is gone and the ato that flies both dash and bras is now him????? you know the dude that really hates the word " noted "
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vee, healy, ref & Aussie.... where are you getting this stuff from?, the man who wears the highvis with "noted" on the back is still just what he was, an ATO and training capt for both fleets, the Flight Std Mgr is stll the same bras capt he was since april of last year and the Flight Ops Mgr is still the same senior dash capt he has been since before i started working at the place. How come no one ever has any good rumors about my fleet? huh were still cool arent we?
