Exodus from Skippers (Merged)
Why would Alliance want to have anything to do with a company where, 1. neither hand knows what the other is doing, 2. everybody wants to work somewhere else and 3. not even a great big shiny orange carrot (i.e. command for everybody) is keeping guys interested? Bad for business I recon! Surely a company that big could just go and buy a couple of Dash's etc if they want them that badly!
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Brazilian Bird your right the mines do set very strict minimums for not only the crews total times but also the experience base of its maintenance provider. Ive worked for 4 regionals that operate fly in fly out and when the mines sent their Auditors in it is much more intense than any CASA audit I've been involved with because they use industry professionals to carry out the audit.
Regionals like Skippers have always been the stepping stone for progression to something larger and will continue that way, there has been at least one pilot return to Skippers in the last 12 months after realising that the grass wasn't as green as it looked and the deal at Skippers wasn't too bad, they rarely do overnights or weekends so they get a stable life at home, plus with the increasing size of the Dash 8 fleet there is progression in house to larger aircraft.
Regionals like Skippers have always been the stepping stone for progression to something larger and will continue that way, there has been at least one pilot return to Skippers in the last 12 months after realising that the grass wasn't as green as it looked and the deal at Skippers wasn't too bad, they rarely do overnights or weekends so they get a stable life at home, plus with the increasing size of the Dash 8 fleet there is progression in house to larger aircraft.
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Vee Tail is right except for the cost of a c check is hundreds of thousands each, not something you can recoup if you sell the aircraft, the same with the SIDs on the 441 why spend 120K plus to get an extra 1400 hrs if it isn't worth it and your not a serious player?? The additional Dash 8's are good machines the only reason more haven't been purchased is they are as rare as rocking horse poo and operators just don't get rid of them. The dash 8 fleet will continue to grow as aircraft become available for sale, having a diverse fleet isn't the most cost effective option with regards to crewing and maintenance however it keeps your client base varied and wide from small operations that only need to move a few people once or twice a week into unsealed strips to regular shift changes and shutdowns of large numbers of people. Skippers covers a large range of options by having a varied fleet to cater to clients needs.
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Alliance/Skippers merger
Pleasing to see a rumour I started 2 months ago when the F100 was in the shed because it had to be jacked (using skywest jacks)has blossomed so well.
The old saying sticks true if you have't heard a good rumour by 09:00.
start one
The old saying sticks true if you have't heard a good rumour by 09:00.
start one
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Humour me Barbarrosa, how much do you think it would cost to buy Alliance ?, whilst everything is for sale, i doubt very much they would be selling when they are growing so rapidly, far more than any other operator.
Historically speaking SQ does not buy booming businesses.
Historically speaking SQ does not buy booming businesses.
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Sounds to me like you enjoy the sound of your own voice, beat your chest a bit harder 'barbarrosa', it'll make you feel better.
It's all crap, the only thing immenant is another exodus...........
It's all crap, the only thing immenant is another exodus...........
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Talking about interviews at skippers, are they really happening?
According to pilot.staffcv.com last time any employer did a search was on 28/05/2008.
Is there something I don't know or have missed???
According to pilot.staffcv.com last time any employer did a search was on 28/05/2008.
Is there something I don't know or have missed???
Im curious, what is the current situation like at Skippers for people who actually work there now???
I know they are looking for people.
Are there sufficient people left to do adequate training on any of the types in a short time frame??
What are the current payscales for each type and seat and T& C like????
Any info from current employees would be helpful.
A few facts please as opposed to the speculation and bashing.
Thanks
I know they are looking for people.
Are there sufficient people left to do adequate training on any of the types in a short time frame??
What are the current payscales for each type and seat and T& C like????
Any info from current employees would be helpful.
A few facts please as opposed to the speculation and bashing.
Thanks
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Current situation; two words - poorly managed!
Aussie, to be honest it really depends what fleet your on, I can only speak for the 50 seat category. If you're the type to get involved in politics you might as well save yourself some suffering and slit your wrists now. On a brighter note, the flying, the guys and the F/A's are great and good fun. Current training personel (a good guy) is a stretched comodity.
Salary prob better covered in prev posts i.e. if you sift back through the thread your bound to find something but broadly speaking around the 45g/ 95g incl of super depending what seat your butt is in.
Aussie, to be honest it really depends what fleet your on, I can only speak for the 50 seat category. If you're the type to get involved in politics you might as well save yourself some suffering and slit your wrists now. On a brighter note, the flying, the guys and the F/A's are great and good fun. Current training personel (a good guy) is a stretched comodity.
Salary prob better covered in prev posts i.e. if you sift back through the thread your bound to find something but broadly speaking around the 45g/ 95g incl of super depending what seat your butt is in.
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Alliance/Skippers
Hey Tosser,I don't think SJQ will buy Alliance but 25Mil for Skippers is rediculous, thats the point I was making although I could see someone who was cashed up and owned all their aircraft (no leases)and facilites doing a deal with with someone who was expanding rapidly and may be having growing pains with cash flow that had a mutual benefit. If you know SJQ you will know he doesn't do it for love its all about getting bigger. I did some work for Alliance a while back when they launched the big expansion and they some cash flow issues then because the aircraft in the shed sometimes had to wait for parts till they did a few extra charters, ask acouple of engineers that have been with them for a few years.
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I hear a very strong rumour "ze gestapo" is a bigger threat to this organisation than any other, apparent concerns about "appropriate management structure / experience levels", be it personnel or actual reporting structure, we may soon see.
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No big mystery:
Alliance Air
IATA Code: QQ
Airline Name: Alliance Air
Address: P.O. Box 1126, Eagle Farm, Brisbane, Queensland 4009 Australia
Phone: +61 (0)7 3212 1212
Fax: +61 (0)7 3212 1297
Alliance Air
IATA Code: QQ
Airline Name: Alliance Air
Address: P.O. Box 1126, Eagle Farm, Brisbane, Queensland 4009 Australia
Phone: +61 (0)7 3212 1212
Fax: +61 (0)7 3212 1297
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So with the new Dash 8’s on their way, how are things shaping up for Skippers in the near future?
Are there many suitable candidates going through the interview process?
What are the current ground school numbers like?
Has there been any talk of a pay increases to try and stabilise their pilot ranks?
How many have had interviews elsewhere recently?
Are there many suitable candidates going through the interview process?
What are the current ground school numbers like?
Has there been any talk of a pay increases to try and stabilise their pilot ranks?
How many have had interviews elsewhere recently?
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I dont know how much more you could reasonably pay a Braz or Dash crew and stay competitive.
Besides, it doesn't matter how much you get paid, if your treated like fodder, you will leave.
Besides, it doesn't matter how much you get paid, if your treated like fodder, you will leave.
