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Old 16th Nov 2006, 03:15
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Jetstar's march continues

Qantas Group Airline ‘Jetstar’ to further grow in
western Japan by offering direct services to Cairns

The Qantas Group’s value based airline, Jetstar, will further grow direct international services from western Japan to Australia, announcing plans to operate from both Nagoya and Osaka to Cairns, the gateway to tropical Australia.

The decision will consolidate Jetstar as the sole Qantas Group airline serving both Osaka and Nagoya.

From 2 August 2007*, Jetstar will operate six weekly return services direct between Nagoya and Cairns including twice weekly Sydney-Cairns-Nagoya, launching the airline for the first time in Nagoya.

Commencing 8 September 2007*, Jetstar will also serve Cairns directly from Osaka four times weekly.

Jetstar will operate an initial fleet of Airbus A330-200 aircraft (303 seat configured), offering two classes of service including StarClass, Jetstar’s business class.

The value based carrier’s inaugural Japanese services will commence from 25 March 2007* with a daily direct service from Osaka to Brisbane and Sydney, a new Qantas Group international route, which was announced earlier this year. All flights are subject to regulatory approval.

Jetstar Chief Executive Officer Alan Joyce said Jetstar’s market entry in Japan and fresh commitment to growth in its international operations from western Japan to Australia would represent a 30 per cent increase in operated capacity for the Qantas Group by September next year.

Mr Joyce said this included a 13 per cent increase in capacity on the Cairns – Nagoya route.

“The transition to a Jetstar operation on Cairns-Osaka and Cairns-Nagoya routes will improve their sustainability for the Qantas Group and provide the best platform for future growth from the Japanese market,” Mr Joyce said.

To celebrate Jetstar’s new international services from Japan, Jetstar is on sale from AU $299 all inclusive one way from Cairns to Nagoya and Osaka and from AU $399 all inclusive one way between Sydney and Brisbane to Osaka. Sale fares in Australia are available at Jetstar.com and Jetstar Telephone Reservations on 131 538. Conditions apply.*

Jetstar is on sale in Japan with special return fares from 20,000 yen plus surcharges, fees and taxes from Nagoya and Osaka to Cairns and from 40,000 yen plus surcharges, fees and taxes between Osaka to Brisbane and Sydney. Fares are available in Japan from participating Travel Agents and Jetstar Holidays Telephone Reservations on 0034 800 400 839. Conditions apply.*

The sale for all routes closes midnight 17 November 2006 AEST.

Jetstar’s Group General Manager - Commercial, Bruce Buchanan, was joined by Jetstar Regional General Manager – Japan, Masaru Kataoka, in Nagoya to make the announcement.

Mr Buchanan said Jetstar would operate its long haul international services for the first time into Cairns and will be a significant part of the value based airline’s future planned 17 weekly services from either the Kansai or Chubu regions next year.

“Jetstar’s expanding international operations out of western Japan forms part of the Qantas Group’s continued focus on two airline brands for future growth and sustainable operations,” Mr Buchanan said.

“Other features of the new international services will include a Qantas codeshare arrangement on all flights, connectivity of Jetstar passengers and their luggage between Jetstar international services and Qantas international and Qantas domestic services in Australia as well as seamless through check-in.”

Jetstar will support its expanding international operations from both the Kansai and Chubu regions with its Osaka based office headed by Mr. Masaru Kataoka, and intends to work closely with the Japanese travel industry including wholesalers and travel agents.

“Jetstar would like to thank Kansai International Airport, Central Japan International Airport, and the Osaka and Aichi Prefectural Governments who have allowed us to build our services to and from western Japan,” Mr Buchanan said.

“Jetstar is also grateful for the support shown in Australia by the Queensland Government and Cairns Port Authority to operate these international services into Queensland.

“Jetstar will also work closely with Tourism Australia and Qantas to support these routes.”

Packages sold by Japanese wholesalers and travel agents for economy travel on Jetstar will receive meals and drinks and headphones to watch inflight movies plus an amenity kit with blanket and pillow. Economy passengers may rent portable video on demand units and buy additional drinks and snacks.

All flights subject to regulatory approval.
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Jetstar will also work closely with.....Qantas to support these routes.
I bet it will. It'll have its snout so far down in the Qantas trough it'll be having trouble breathing.
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Your quote:
I bet it will. It'll have its snout so far down in the Qantas trough it'll be having trouble breathing.


Along with QF executives!!

Has everyone seen the SQ ads for trips to Asia? With fares as good as offered by Jet* Int. and I quote their ad "Great fares, full inflight service, personal inflight entertainment system, savour world gourmet cuisine, and then relax with a blanket and soft pillow".

Good on you SQ!!
Thanks for helping us reveal GDs "con" of Jet* International.

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When Jetstar Int was launched I did a quick comparison of MEL to BKK fares, between JQ and TG. The fares were roughly the same, but that was with no frills ordered on Jetstar. Also if you have a connection ex BKK, if you travel with Jetstar you have to overnight.

The only way I can see Jetstar being good value for anyone, is if you get a really cheap seat in one of their sales. A Thai friend of mine got one of their launch fares for about $300-400 return MEL-BKK. This is hard to beat, but on their everyday fares there is better value for money out there.
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Originally Posted by Shlonghaul

Good on you SQ!!
Thanks for helping us reveal GDs "con" of Jet* International.
Are you serious?

Have a think about that. Would you really rather see Aussies fly with a foreign airline than an Aussie one? Surely it is better to have the jobs here in Aus?

What about when / if SQ are allowed to reveal GD's "con" over the pacific routes?

Perhaps I have misinterpreted your post.
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Would you really rather see Aussies fly with a foreign airline than an Aussie one?
Yes! If the Aussie option is a complete laughing stock that devalues the whole industry.
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Yes! If the Aussie option is a complete laughing stock that devalues the whole industry.

Blah, blah, blah.

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Supporting the kangaroo albeit the Star

Got to say, I think "Oldmate" has a point.
As much as I want to see my mates working out of Aus, I agree that the way QF and J* (sic) are being run and flight routes inflicted with knives like they were about to bring about the end of a man's manhood, flying with them really only means you agree with JD's juggernaut.
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Bit Off Track But....

Have any of you QF staff enquired on Jet* staff travel fares as yet? I know the destinations may not appeal to some of you but just wondering about the comparison between current QF fares and the new Jet* fare - or are they going to rip off the staff as well?

If they are over the top, is this GD's way off further peeing off staff? Getting rid of more staff? after all, he won't need a staff travel dept.
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I mean no disrespect, but ...I've got the feeling that the QANTAS die hards are trying to hold holy something that the average punter doesn't want.

As a consumer, my choice is to either sit cramped up in QANTAS' 31" pitch economy class ... or Jetstar's 38" premium economy cabin. For that ...I'm willing to pay a premium ... and I bet there's others who think likewise.

QANTAS has seen fit not to introduce premium economy and I think it's lost a lot of custom to the likes of BA and AIRNZ on that front. The other group of people who are flocking to Jetstar are those who don't care about seat pitch but want to save a buck. They are also happy to purchase food on board ... if they want it.

QANTAS, like any business, has to accept that they can't tell today's consumer what they want ... nor tell the consumer that what they want is the wrong choice ...you just have to provide what they want.

If you don't ... you can't sit around crying about them departing in droves.
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QANTAS, like any business, has to accept that they can't tell today's consumer what they want ... nor tell the consumer that what they want is the wrong choice ...you just have to provide what they want.
And thats exactly the problem.
I was a QF customer, I will never be a Jetpox customer.
Jetpox have taken over the QF routes I utilise I no longer have the choice to travel QF.
My choice is to travel TIGER to Singapore and then find another real airline from there onto........
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peuce..previous threads have shown that jetstar aint necessarily the cheapest, so that argument is flawed.

longjohn, your argument of flying with carriers who don't employ Australians is again another well beaten flawed argument...punters don't give a rats, hence thats why they choose to fly EK, SQ, TG, BA etc etc. Punters care about service and value for money, some may choose to fly JQ to save a buck, but most buy a ticket wanting more than a coke and peanuts for an 8 hour leg. The costs of JQ add up, and as shown, why would you fly them when you can get a comparable fare and better service with an Asian or Middle East carrier.

Jetstar are just beating the public into submission. By using well placed spin they attempt to brainwash the public into thinking they are the revolution in aviation. When they have lowered the cost sufficiently on their routes, they'll paint a red tail on the jet and that'll be the "new" Qantas.
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How surprising.........SQ putting out " specials " on all of Jetstars routes, what about before they had the competition ? Reminds me of Ansett WA when Q/link came along.

and RENNURP, Jetpox? a bit rich coming from a National Joke contractor

Pete, your slipping
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Peuce has a good point.

If Jetstar and Qantas are on the same route why wouldn't pax go to Jetstar with Starclass rather than Qantas economy?

It will happen to BKK and HNL!

There may be a difference in fares...I don't know but I don't want to see another BA and GO situation develop.
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Has anyone seen the new starclass seating yet? Maybe if there are some piccis floating around then we could have them posted. I'm just thinking yes it would be nice to fly the starclass but are they bigger seats and with all the frills? Otherwise you might be better off on QF cattle class
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and RENNURP, Jetpox? a bit rich coming from a National Joke contractor
My comments were written from a pax point of view.
The options to fly with QANTAS are rapidly dissapearing, leaving JetPox as the replacement.
Like I said if I can't fly QF I will fly Virgin domestically, (marginally better) or Tiger to a destination were I can find a real airline.

Now whether you work for them or not surely you can't suggest that Jetpox service is above NJS/QLink standards.
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You could always drive, and if you do it sooner than later you'll avoid the speed limit & demerit points!
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DirectAnywhere :- The -200 is actually the shorter version of the A330 but with longer range, the longer one is the A330-300.
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Originally Posted by longjohn
Would you really rather see Aussies fly with a foreign airline than an Aussie one? Surely it is better to have the jobs here in Aus?
longjohn, whilst I support the j* boys and gals as fellow comrads, yes I would rather see them flying for certain foreign operators. Why? Because I support the will most of these people have to live in Australia, and with this RDO is o/s ports bizo, airlines like CX and EVA guarantee more time in oz than jetstar. Who gives a rats about keeping Australian jobs if they aren't really in Australia.
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Originally Posted by Pete Conrad
longjohn, your argument of flying with carriers who don't employ Australians is again another well beaten flawed argument...punters don't give a rats,

Actually that was not my argument. In fact, it was a question as to whether or not those in the profession really would rather see jobs go to foreign pilots as against Jetstars'.

Originally Posted by Pete Conrad
The costs of JQ add up, and as shown, why would you fly them when you can get a comparable fare and better service with an Asian or Middle East carrier.

You would not, unless you could get it cheaper, better scheduled or perhaps.....you could go direct, rather than via Singapore etc.


Originally Posted by Pete Conrad
Jetstar are just beating the public into submission. By using well placed spin they attempt to brainwash the public into thinking they are the revolution in aviation.

Do you really hold the travelling public in that much contempt? I would like to think that todays consumers are a little more savvy.

Originally Posted by Pete Conrad
When they have lowered the cost sufficiently on their routes, they'll paint a red tail on the jet and that'll be the "new" Qantas.

Perhaps. But if the route has been succesful in the budget market under the Jetstar brand, why would they move it into the mainline brand which is perceived as higher cost?
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