Geoff a happy man....
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Gentlemen get a grip......do you really think Geoff gives a damn which way the pilots voted?
His plans were already made and whatever LH pilots voted for, would not change them one bit.
Now what is the "ARG" going to do????? It would seem the rug has been pulled from under them with a rejection of their policies! No gloating intended.
His plans were already made and whatever LH pilots voted for, would not change them one bit.
Now what is the "ARG" going to do????? It would seem the rug has been pulled from under them with a rejection of their policies! No gloating intended.
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You do indeed work with idiots Veruka. Why the hell would you overwhelmingly vote in the ARG then vote yes to an EBA which goes against the ARG's stated EBA position? Talk about cutting the ARG off at the knees. Stupid and softcoxs!
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The ARG got up in the union elections primarily as a protest vote against the President's Leadership and the rose coloured glasses he wears.
Given that this EBA is nearly 12 months late and therefore negotiations for the next one are due to start pretty much straight away, the ARG will get their chance to show their stuff soon enough. The feeling amongst the yes voters is that our interests would be better served by keeping our powder dry in this EBA and give the ARG a shot a negotiating a better EBA from a clean sheet of paper next time around. We have not abandonded them.
Given that this EBA is nearly 12 months late and therefore negotiations for the next one are due to start pretty much straight away, the ARG will get their chance to show their stuff soon enough. The feeling amongst the yes voters is that our interests would be better served by keeping our powder dry in this EBA and give the ARG a shot a negotiating a better EBA from a clean sheet of paper next time around. We have not abandonded them.
Ah but Mr McGoo, by then it will be too late for those S/Os shipped off to Singapore under a sub-standard deal. Try telling the blokes who will be leaving their missus and kids behind that you haven't abandoned them either 
Dixon is right, the majority of mainline pilots are softc0cks - 58% to be precise.
TL
Dixon is right, the majority of mainline pilots are softc0cks - 58% to be precise.
TL
Nunc est bibendum
Keep the powder dry McGoo? If you weren't prepared to use it on THIS EBA then you're kidding yourself if you think you'll EVER use it! What do they have to put in front of you before you'll think about using it? What hope do the ARG have next time around considering what we've just rolled over on! 
That 'clean sheet' you think you've given the ARG for next time is most definately not 'clean'. It's stained now and has the indelible ink of a weak pilot group all over it. All it needs is for a little bit of 'pressure' and the true colours will shine through! 
Keg. 'No' voter and proud of it.
PS: As time goes on, those who claim they voted 'no' will amount to a lot more than 625! It's probably that way already!
That 'clean sheet' you think you've given the ARG for next time is most definately not 'clean'. It's stained now and has the indelible ink of a weak pilot group all over it. All it needs is for a little bit of 'pressure' and the true colours will shine through!
Keg. 'No' voter and proud of it.
PS: As time goes on, those who claim they voted 'no' will amount to a lot more than 625! It's probably that way already!
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Softcocks...
Wait until the IR reforms make any action almost impossible. Dixon will act with impunity exactly as Howard intends.
We are finished as a group. The J* rollout will be finished and there is nothing we can do, the next EBA is a foregone conclusion, the window is closed shut. This was the watershed you tool Mcgoo
I'm disgusted in my colleagues, short sighted self absorbed and naive...all for a few bits of mirror and some beads.
For the record NO
Wait until the IR reforms make any action almost impossible. Dixon will act with impunity exactly as Howard intends.
We are finished as a group. The J* rollout will be finished and there is nothing we can do, the next EBA is a foregone conclusion, the window is closed shut. This was the watershed you tool Mcgoo
I'm disgusted in my colleagues, short sighted self absorbed and naive...all for a few bits of mirror and some beads.
For the record NO
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It's game over.
Saying that we'll wait for the next EBA is like saying "I'll start my diet next month" - come next month it's XMAS and New Year's Eve, then Aunt Mabel's Birthday in January.....
There will always be a "justification" for NOT doing it NEXT time.
Just as there is for not doing it THIS time!
Forget about the dry powder - it's time to get the KY out.
The way I see it, there are only two choices now - stay and get reamed out BIG time, or sell your experience to an employer who at least pays the going rate.
This decision by our wonderful ARG was a career one that will affect ALL QANTAS pilots.
It's the one GOD wanted, because it means the resignations will be a slow, controllable trickle, allowing them to gradually increase the workload on those left behind.
It also takes away the threat of any action over the peak travel period.
Oh McGoo, you've done it AGAIN!!
Saying that we'll wait for the next EBA is like saying "I'll start my diet next month" - come next month it's XMAS and New Year's Eve, then Aunt Mabel's Birthday in January.....
There will always be a "justification" for NOT doing it NEXT time.
Just as there is for not doing it THIS time!
Forget about the dry powder - it's time to get the KY out.
The way I see it, there are only two choices now - stay and get reamed out BIG time, or sell your experience to an employer who at least pays the going rate.
This decision by our wonderful ARG was a career one that will affect ALL QANTAS pilots.
It's the one GOD wanted, because it means the resignations will be a slow, controllable trickle, allowing them to gradually increase the workload on those left behind.
It also takes away the threat of any action over the peak travel period.
Oh McGoo, you've done it AGAIN!!
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This decision by our wonderful ARG was a career one that will affect ALL QANTAS pilots.
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Clearly the majority of you lot are a tad confused not just Ronnie.
What has happened is that the adults have taken the guns and matches away from the children before they could hurt themselves. It's for your own good and you'll thank us oneday
What has happened is that the adults have taken the guns and matches away from the children before they could hurt themselves. It's for your own good and you'll thank us oneday
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What has happened is that the adults have taken the guns and matches away from the children before they could hurt themselves. It's for your own good and you'll thank us oneday
It is clear that some Qantas pilots do things which resemble lion behaviour. They're quite happy to devour their own young if they see it as advantageous to their current individual position.