Flight Attendants, 1:50 or 1:36
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Woomeras you often ban people for using the Sc@b word which is certainly far less offensive than the Kaffer word (post apartheid) that BA 50 uses.
Aussie, after years of re-inventing the wheel, will eventually join the rest of the aviation community.
Aussie, after years of re-inventing the wheel, will eventually join the rest of the aviation community.
I am with Hoss on this one. It happens in our ops on occasions but most skippers are not happy with 1 fa on a 300 and generally say so. Ops controllers seem happy to leave the 2nd FA on board.
I AM WRITING THIS POST ONLY WITH REGIONAL OPERATIONS IN MIND.
A couple of points to consider
1.Service: Seeing a flight attendant dish out 36 breakfast packs, teas and coffees, and also look after 2 tech crew by getting there breakfast trays to them with no delay and a smile on their face. It is a sight to behold , seriously......... Let alone, they get this done also in bad weather and dealing with unreasonable requests from pax and techies.
With 1 per 50 service standards on full service operations will drop significantly.
2. Safety: Having had a close look at SOP's from other turboprop operators with regard to cabin procedures I am at a loss as to how a single FA will control 50 pax in a full blown emergency. I am aware they are told to use ABP's, able bodied passengers, but I can assure you ABP's are 90% useless in an emergency. They are hell bent on getting themselves out of the plane. Don't forget that with fewer passengers on board means fewer suitable ABP's to call on.
With 1 per 50 our safety standards will drop and the risk of a serious incident will increase.
I am not bagging the NZ system. I would like to see how the Air Nelson operation is working and whether they use single FA's on their 300's.I am not sure how this will affect narrow bodied jet operations, but I KNOW this will seriously reduce safety in 50 seat aircraft operations in Australia.
Capt Stoobing.
I AM WRITING THIS POST ONLY WITH REGIONAL OPERATIONS IN MIND.
A couple of points to consider
1.Service: Seeing a flight attendant dish out 36 breakfast packs, teas and coffees, and also look after 2 tech crew by getting there breakfast trays to them with no delay and a smile on their face. It is a sight to behold , seriously......... Let alone, they get this done also in bad weather and dealing with unreasonable requests from pax and techies.
With 1 per 50 service standards on full service operations will drop significantly.
2. Safety: Having had a close look at SOP's from other turboprop operators with regard to cabin procedures I am at a loss as to how a single FA will control 50 pax in a full blown emergency. I am aware they are told to use ABP's, able bodied passengers, but I can assure you ABP's are 90% useless in an emergency. They are hell bent on getting themselves out of the plane. Don't forget that with fewer passengers on board means fewer suitable ABP's to call on.
With 1 per 50 our safety standards will drop and the risk of a serious incident will increase.
I am not bagging the NZ system. I would like to see how the Air Nelson operation is working and whether they use single FA's on their 300's.I am not sure how this will affect narrow bodied jet operations, but I KNOW this will seriously reduce safety in 50 seat aircraft operations in Australia.
Capt Stoobing.
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simple maths
had a talk to the guy who owned a regional airline in nz some years ago finding out how nz got their 1:50 pax ratio. was pretty simple he told me, he ordered this turboprop with 50 seats or thereabouts he was going to put in then he thought he only needs one f/a because he is not going to serve the punters anthing, rang his mate the minister of the then nz transport dp and all was ok. and thats not a joke.
finding out how nz got their 1:50 pax ratio.
