Deathstar At It Again
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Big deal.
If he'd taken the bus option he'd still be enroute to Melbourne.
At least he had a chance to sleep off his hangover.
Must have been another no news day on the Sunshine Coast.
Yawn
If he'd taken the bus option he'd still be enroute to Melbourne.
At least he had a chance to sleep off his hangover.
Must have been another no news day on the Sunshine Coast.
Yawn
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A rivetting read
Crap journalism at its best.
Bluddy jetstar, making the weather bad at HTI, then having the audacity to keep pax on the plane, obviously in an attempt to minimise turnaround times.
Lucky the Qantas pilots inbound to Bris could take over, perhaps that was another reason for the delay, the 73 pilots had to quickly do an A320 differences course.
Sucked in Cameron, shoulda gone to Brissy in the 1st place
Get a life, with all those obvious mistakes in that load of *****, don't you think the rest of it might be a little less than the whole truth ??
Stats only go to prove that over more than 1 month VB just as bad as JQ
Crap journalism at its best.
Bluddy jetstar, making the weather bad at HTI, then having the audacity to keep pax on the plane, obviously in an attempt to minimise turnaround times.
Lucky the Qantas pilots inbound to Bris could take over, perhaps that was another reason for the delay, the 73 pilots had to quickly do an A320 differences course.
Sucked in Cameron, shoulda gone to Brissy in the 1st place
Get a life, with all those obvious mistakes in that load of *****, don't you think the rest of it might be a little less than the whole truth ??
Stats only go to prove that over more than 1 month VB just as bad as JQ
Fair enough, just a REALLY bad day (it happens!) BUT- Can an airline have passengers at their mercy for 15 Hours and not feed them?
Do the QantasLink figures include the National Jet Ops?? I cannot believe that the 146 are that reliable. It could just be that I see alot of break downs but I would not have guessed that their figures would be that good!!
When you live....
Guess which quality channel 7 'current affairs' program picked up the story last night - complete with quotes from Cam saying that next time "it'll probably be with Virgin Blue"?
Didn't even bother giving J*or QF the right of reply - might have got some facts then and spoiled a good story.
I would have changed parts of the story to "fortunately the plane was taken out of service at 7.25am - lest some failure cause it to plummet from the sky". Poor Cam would never have made it to Melbourne if that had happened. Anyway, what kind of lunatic thinks it's a good idea to set off for Hamilton Island if you're aiming to get to Melbourne (apart from Qantas of course)?
Neville_nobody - what are you talking about? Melbourne- Sunshine Coast is a Jetstar A320 and that's the only plane that was U/S.
EDIT: PS There is one part of the story that doesn't make sense - QF/JS don't operate Maroochydore to Hamilton Island do they? Their timetable says Melbourne & Sydney only?
Didn't even bother giving J*or QF the right of reply - might have got some facts then and spoiled a good story.
I would have changed parts of the story to "fortunately the plane was taken out of service at 7.25am - lest some failure cause it to plummet from the sky". Poor Cam would never have made it to Melbourne if that had happened. Anyway, what kind of lunatic thinks it's a good idea to set off for Hamilton Island if you're aiming to get to Melbourne (apart from Qantas of course)?
Neville_nobody - what are you talking about? Melbourne- Sunshine Coast is a Jetstar A320 and that's the only plane that was U/S.
EDIT: PS There is one part of the story that doesn't make sense - QF/JS don't operate Maroochydore to Hamilton Island do they? Their timetable says Melbourne & Sydney only?
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UTR,
I think Neville is refering to the stats listed on the second link,
whereby Qantaslink comes out ahead of J* and Q.
Nev,
I can believe it. The 146s may be a bit on in the tooth, but NJS
has had a lot of experience with them and are familiar with their
quirks. In my experience it isnt often the 146s tech probs causing
delays, but fail to boards, slow baggage loading, slow pax
loading (particularly with the ludicrous security checking at
Paraburdoo) and late load sheets that seem to account for the
majority of delays.
I think Neville is refering to the stats listed on the second link,
whereby Qantaslink comes out ahead of J* and Q.
Nev,
I can believe it. The 146s may be a bit on in the tooth, but NJS
has had a lot of experience with them and are familiar with their
quirks. In my experience it isnt often the 146s tech probs causing
delays, but fail to boards, slow baggage loading, slow pax
loading (particularly with the ludicrous security checking at
Paraburdoo) and late load sheets that seem to account for the
majority of delays.
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'neath the radar .. from memory the reason the flight ex Maroochy went to Hammo was because of a breakdown somewhere else, or at least that's what I think they tried to infer in the story ..
I don't think the journo(s) really knew what they were on about and they lost the original point of their story somewhere in the way it was presented ..
another day in the life of airline operations .. some days are just woeful, hey Cam.
I don't think the journo(s) really knew what they were on about and they lost the original point of their story somewhere in the way it was presented ..
another day in the life of airline operations .. some days are just woeful, hey Cam.
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Neville,
Yes the QF Link figures include the NJS 146s.
Might be time re-examine what you believe. NJS has its share of woes, but they do dispatch the 146 with a higher percent on-time than the mainline 737 'classics'.
And this at all the minimum staff ports like Gove, Paraburdoo, etc.
NJS has been running 146's as the 'head of the fleet' since 1991. Maybe knowing the aeroplane very well is the key here.
As for the article -- so some little hungover bogan had a bad day?
Ask, if you could, the fifteen people that smacked into the side of a hill at Lockhart River what a bad day in an aeroplane is really like.
Do the QantasLink figures include the National Jet Ops?? I cannot believe that the 146 are that reliable.
Might be time re-examine what you believe. NJS has its share of woes, but they do dispatch the 146 with a higher percent on-time than the mainline 737 'classics'.
And this at all the minimum staff ports like Gove, Paraburdoo, etc.
NJS has been running 146's as the 'head of the fleet' since 1991. Maybe knowing the aeroplane very well is the key here.
As for the article -- so some little hungover bogan had a bad day?
Ask, if you could, the fifteen people that smacked into the side of a hill at Lockhart River what a bad day in an aeroplane is really like.
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You get what you pay for. Jet* doesnt pretend to be anything else but a fast bus seat. Its funny how folks want to pay the same as the bus and still expect the same standard of serivce you got on QF/AN Y class.
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QF A330 Emergency landing Kansai
BankAngle50, your right about the L1011 burning - fire burnt through the outflow control valves wiring (closed position) and the cabin floor on approach.
Acft landed, pax panicked, invaded cockpit, smothered cockpit crew.
Crew unable to carry out engine shutdown, engs continued to pressurize the cabin and cabin crew unable to open doors due high diff press.
Disaster.
Acft landed, pax panicked, invaded cockpit, smothered cockpit crew.
Crew unable to carry out engine shutdown, engs continued to pressurize the cabin and cabin crew unable to open doors due high diff press.
Disaster.
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Pete not that i really care about VB's product, but at least you get the same seat pitch as QF and they actually clean the aircraft more than once a day. You must be the only one who thinks Jet* is anything but dirty, cramped, zero service, Ryanair esq. crap. Even the Patty that runs the joint proclaims its just a seat. Virgin is not QF J class, but its a hell of alot better than Jet*.
Hows the crew meals and the EBA going? Haha!!
. Even the Patty that runs the joint proclaims its just a seat. Virgin is not QF J class, but its a hell of alot better than Jet*.Hows the crew meals and the EBA going? Haha!!
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Cam's Excellent Adventure
Sorry, I just can't see the problem. For $29 the kid gets a tour of Eastern Australia, goes to the Barrier Reef, sees the Rain Forests, packs in a full day's entertainment and gets to Melbourne just in time to start on the night-clubbing circuit.
Errm... where's the beef?
I wouldn't be surprised if more 18-year-olds didn't start buying tickets on Jet* in the hope the same thing might happen to them.
Beats staying home and washing Dad's car.
Ansett used to sell tours less ambitious than this and call them Mystery Flights - I think they charged at least $100 for them, too!
Joycee, maybe there's a whole new product for you to develop here!
VHCU - out.
Errm... where's the beef?
I wouldn't be surprised if more 18-year-olds didn't start buying tickets on Jet* in the hope the same thing might happen to them.
Beats staying home and washing Dad's car.
Ansett used to sell tours less ambitious than this and call them Mystery Flights - I think they charged at least $100 for them, too!
Joycee, maybe there's a whole new product for you to develop here!
VHCU - out.
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This Would Be a Great Industry Without Customers
The part that really peeves me is that this “kid” had the audacity to front up with $$$X (actually, paid for by his Granma) in the belief that he would obtain a trip to Hell. Now one would think that given his vast experience in travel with Deathstar, MTA, Qaintrrrs etc, that he would have known that to take a bus to Brisvegas and catch a Qaintrrrs flight (maybe) would have been the better option. I mean, how dare he assume that since he set the price for airfares with Deathstar (you get what you pay for), from Heaven to Hell, that he should in fact get a seat that would take him to Hell. Instead, this ingrate actually had the temerity to believe the Deathstar staff when they told him, hey we aint got no planes (talking to an expert here) that is going direct to Hell, but you could fly to Hell via Hamilton and get there around 4.30pm.
Now if this is not bad enough, Cam then slunk to the lowest level and told a reporter, and heaven forbid, made the comment that he would used MTA in future. Of course, depending on how one reads the story, one could be forgiven for thinking that for once, the reporter did not fabricate any facts, wrote what Cameron said, and had it confirmed by Big Simon W, and in fact, Big Simon W said it could have been worse!!!!!!!!.
I purposely posted the link only and had a wager with myself that within a week, all gambits of blame would be posted by whomever. You guys outdid me and I lost my wager to myself. We have, reporters fault, slow news day, airline having an off day, should have caught a bus, comparison between airlines, and of course, the ubiquitous, you get what you pay for. This would be a great industry, without customers. Some things never change!!!!!!!!
Ah well, back to self hibernation……………
Now if this is not bad enough, Cam then slunk to the lowest level and told a reporter, and heaven forbid, made the comment that he would used MTA in future. Of course, depending on how one reads the story, one could be forgiven for thinking that for once, the reporter did not fabricate any facts, wrote what Cameron said, and had it confirmed by Big Simon W, and in fact, Big Simon W said it could have been worse!!!!!!!!.
I purposely posted the link only and had a wager with myself that within a week, all gambits of blame would be posted by whomever. You guys outdid me and I lost my wager to myself. We have, reporters fault, slow news day, airline having an off day, should have caught a bus, comparison between airlines, and of course, the ubiquitous, you get what you pay for. This would be a great industry, without customers. Some things never change!!!!!!!!
Ah well, back to self hibernation……………