Jetstar Asia a failure for QF
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Sorry ys120fz, can't agree with you. Qantas only uses Singapore as a tech stop with most of the punters going through to Europe. Good loads too. Obviously with the profit that has been made, yields are good. First and business class is where all the money is made. I can't see them retrenching in the near future either as the on going employment of pilots would have ceased long ago.
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Of course they're going to have a disproportianate effect on the economy. With a population of around 20 million and an airline requiring 747's that cost around half a billion each, what else would you expect?
By the way, as a Qantas employee, I do feel for people who lose their jobs as I had many friends in Ansett and saw what they went through. Not nice.
By the way, as a Qantas employee, I do feel for people who lose their jobs as I had many friends in Ansett and saw what they went through. Not nice.
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Does any one have info on the J*Asia pushback last week that went wrong, when a young pax. asked if that door ( aft cargo) is supposed to be still open?
And rumour that Crew had already started first engine.?
And rumour that Crew had already started first engine.?
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seems like a wild story hangar 9, windows/doors is on the checklist and the ground crew at the nose wheel have to give a clearance to start. sure its not at bangkok as the apu is started when pax are loading and aft cargo still open.
did you hear the problem they had with a fmc screen which was blanking. the crew decided to 're-rack' it in flight (can't remember if they were told by maint or saw an engineer doing it sucessfully earlier in the day) to try and kick it back to life. problem was that when they pulled it out the removal handle jammed the throttle levers and they could neither remove it or reinstall it or more worringly move the throttles so they had to 'beat it to death' with the crash axe. don't know how true it is but it was told to us when we were talking to the young kid with a widow seat 22f above the aft cargo door
did you hear the problem they had with a fmc screen which was blanking. the crew decided to 're-rack' it in flight (can't remember if they were told by maint or saw an engineer doing it sucessfully earlier in the day) to try and kick it back to life. problem was that when they pulled it out the removal handle jammed the throttle levers and they could neither remove it or reinstall it or more worringly move the throttles so they had to 'beat it to death' with the crash axe. don't know how true it is but it was told to us when we were talking to the young kid with a widow seat 22f above the aft cargo door
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Miriam, I'm not sure whether your post is tongue-in-cheek, but it sounds like the old Dan Air 727 Wx radar story modified for the A320.
If the FMCG failed, there is a procedure for pulling CBs detailed in FCOM 4. You would certainly not rerack the MCDU.
The FMGC is a computer in the avioics bay. The MCDU is the cockpit interface between it and serveral other systems (ACARS, AIDS, CFDS)
If the crew did try and rerack the MCDU, it is not in the path of the thrust levers.
The thrust levers do not move on the A320 in flight. Once climb thrust is set after T/O, the thrust levers remain in the climb detent until the retard call at 20ft.
If the FMCG failed, there is a procedure for pulling CBs detailed in FCOM 4. You would certainly not rerack the MCDU.
The FMGC is a computer in the avioics bay. The MCDU is the cockpit interface between it and serveral other systems (ACARS, AIDS, CFDS)
If the crew did try and rerack the MCDU, it is not in the path of the thrust levers.
The thrust levers do not move on the A320 in flight. Once climb thrust is set after T/O, the thrust levers remain in the climb detent until the retard call at 20ft.
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Miriam ME thinks that you are knowingly trying to make light of my rumour by introducing a new one that is obviously unfounded.
I have it on good authority that mine did happen and there is a cover up trying to keep it out of the media.
The boy and family have been given free tickets to keep them from going to the media.
The pilot is blaming his indication the compamy is blaming the engineer and so on and so on...
I think I will stay in OZ where this NEVER happens ?
PS. Miriam reading your past posts I feel you have an afiliation with J*A and are too close to comment.
I have it on good authority that mine did happen and there is a cover up trying to keep it out of the media.
The boy and family have been given free tickets to keep them from going to the media.
The pilot is blaming his indication the compamy is blaming the engineer and so on and so on...
I think I will stay in OZ where this NEVER happens ?
PS. Miriam reading your past posts I feel you have an afiliation with J*A and are too close to comment.
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Hangar 9
Now I know its not true! Jetstar Asia are that tight, they wouldn't give away free tickets!
If you look at Miriam's post, I think he's taking the p!ss out of you and not starting a new rumour!
Miriam's using your kid near the aft cargo door as his source!
The boy and family have been given free tickets to keep them from going to the media.
If you look at Miriam's post, I think he's taking the p!ss out of you and not starting a new rumour!
don't know how true it is but it was told to us when we were talking to the young kid with a widow seat 22f above the aft cargo door
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hanger 9 i had a chance to speak to the little fella again from 22f he said the aeroplane was actually damaged and is in the hawker pacific hangar at singapore airport on jacks he said he took down the registration it was 9vtaa. apparently the crew not only failed to see the door was open on the indicator and failed to pick it up on the check list and after given clearance to start from the ground engineers someone forgot to remove the belt loader that’s left at cargo bay until its closed to help the short locals put the webbing in place and close the door. during the push back they started number 3 engine causing the belt loader to catch fire startling the baggage loaders that were fast asleep on the belt at the time. a punchup started between the baggage loaders and the tug drivers over them being woken up the punchup was extinguished by the airport fire fighters when the put out the fire and joined in the punch up on the tug drivers side the tug driver was local the baggage loaders were imports. The number 2 main landing gear was also bent when it hit the belt loader. they have taken off the bent landing gear off and sent it back to airbus with fedex to get straightened as after they took off they couldn’t retract the gear properly and caused them to burn an additional 28.2 t of fuel to bangkok and it also apparently needed 4 units of aileron trim in as well as 9 degrees of rudder trim in for the flight.
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hey REM,
ive got a really good 1990 commodore for sale, no rust, lady driver to church on sundays, never been on the beach or flood, nil accident damage.
for you only $50K AUD....interested?
(couldnt resist sorry)
ive got a really good 1990 commodore for sale, no rust, lady driver to church on sundays, never been on the beach or flood, nil accident damage.
for you only $50K AUD....interested?
(couldnt resist sorry)
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Miriam. What a load of c**p you spout, even assuming your last post was tongue in cheek....
9V-TAA - that well known J* A320. That would be the one that's got the stripey tail and the words "TIGER AIRWAYS" down the side then?
9V-TAA - that well known J* A320. That would be the one that's got the stripey tail and the words "TIGER AIRWAYS" down the side then?
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And I'm pretty sure that even the Tiger Airways 320s don't have a number 3 engine! Someone's pulling your leg.
And considering the max fuel load of a 320 is 18.7T, then burning an additional 28.2T en-oute would be a major feat!
And considering the max fuel load of a 320 is 18.7T, then burning an additional 28.2T en-oute would be a major feat!
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Well true or not it was a good story with an element of truth, but believe they have bigger problems now. Could be a few people looking for jobs soon. The experiment is drawing to a close ?????
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Hangar 9
- 'experiment drawing to a close'
Where did you get this one from?
The same info from "The boy and family have been given free tickets to keep them from going to the media." 
Things are not that great at Jet*Asia and more so for the guys and girls at the 'merged' Valuair
But QF are 100% behind this operation.
The only problem is that they only have 49% stake and are at the mercy of the Singaporean stockholders.
If the Singaporeans are a goer - Jet* Asia will be there for a long time!
- 'experiment drawing to a close'
Where did you get this one from?
The same info from "The boy and family have been given free tickets to keep them from going to the media." Things are not that great at Jet*Asia and more so for the guys and girls at the 'merged' Valuair
But QF are 100% behind this operation. The only problem is that they only have 49% stake and are at the mercy of the Singaporean stockholders. If the Singaporeans are a goer - Jet* Asia will be there for a long time!
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I understand QF just put another $50 or so Million in, so it would seem they are committed to me.
Somebody trying to put the frighteneers on the Jet* boys and girls
I actually flew with them a while back, and not a bad operation. Typical LCC in that you pay for food etc., but Singapore - Bangkok for S$60 was OK. S$83 coming back
Somebody trying to put the frighteneers on the Jet* boys and girls
I actually flew with them a while back, and not a bad operation. Typical LCC in that you pay for food etc., but Singapore - Bangkok for S$60 was OK. S$83 coming back
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Experiment drawing to a close..
Original rumor was that Australian would be gone by end of this year, looks like it will be close.
Did you think that jetstar was the experiment.???
Australian was a convenient little diversion and a "dry run" by Dixon to see how the troops were going to respond (it seems that money isn't a problem when it comes to waging war against the enemy - the staff!).
Did you think that jetstar was the experiment.???
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will be a sad day when Australia's national airline is a low cost carriers such as jetstar.
I saw the Jet* Asia crew in the terminal in Singapore the other day and they looked great! very smart, all smiling and even waved to our crew as they walked past. Good to see.
Oz
I saw the Jet* Asia crew in the terminal in Singapore the other day and they looked great! very smart, all smiling and even waved to our crew as they walked past. Good to see.
Oz
