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Old 25th Jun 2005, 03:26
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Exclamation Combined aviation union meetings Mon 27/6

Australian Services Union have issued a bulletin (see link) have announced brief meetings on Monday to "discuss the unprecedented attack by the Howard Government on your rights at work" at the following locations:
Sydney - 11am T3
Melbourne - 11am International terminal
Brisbane - 11am Qantas Domestic
Adelaide 1pm
Perth 7am domestic, 12 noon international
Regionals - ask your union for details

The ACTU has a list of activities for the "National Week of Action for the Your Rights"

Which unions have asked workers to go?
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Trust the ACTU with rights? They stood by and watched their own movement go down the gurgler under Hawke because their leadership all wanted to be in the Parliament. They helped the 89 Pilots to go under too. If you want help with workers conditions or 'rights' then try somewhere else!
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Hopefully the ASU, being a broad brush type union, will look out for the common good rather than being Labour stooges.
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Read no further than Flying Fox's words. The ACTU rolled over so often when its former leader was PM and Mr. W. Kelty (whatever happened to him?) was Secretary.

Sadly their support for strikebreaking by the government (use of the military, fast tracking foreign import pilots, financial support for the airlines, outrageous media attacks, threatening letters sent to pilots homes, support for legal action over "illegal" industrial action etc) was in no way the least of the ways that the fat cats aided and abetted the demise of not just the labour movement but in doing so the significant subersion of the Australian economy.

And lets not forget that the bottom line of the Kelty-Hawke-Abeles "Axis of Evil" was of course the ultimate demise of the 4 airlines involved, with massive job losses. Their actions were not only unconsionable, but useless and destructive!

If a Liberal government tried on even half of what happened to the workers under Hawke, there'd be an insurrection.
 
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Hence my famous law: "Governments achieve the reverse of what they say they are doing"

I don't think any Liberal Government has ever jailed a unionist. Labor has.

I don't think any Liberal government has successfully broken a strike, like the pilots strike either.

My prediction is therefore that Howards watering down of labour laws will actually reinvigorate and strengthen trade unionism.
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Agreed sunfish...between the greed of CEOs and stupidty of Politicians I think it's highly likely we'll see a return to strong unionism...despite whatever anti strike laws the latter might try and pass on behalf of their mates in the former category...and when the ****e hits the fan industrially they'll have no-one else to blame but themselves.
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Rally together, get the SBU back it's the only way to break to 3% bullsh!t barrier.

I've said it to the boys at work
"It's a big tug o war and if you don't bring a few heavyweight mates your outta your league"

Let's look at the line up

ASU / AWU - no bags or pax get in, no bookings made

TWU - nothing moves period (gotta love the radicals)

AMWU / AWU / ETU - no repairs no how

ALAEA - nothing signed out, nothing flies

FAAA - no pax service.

Pilots - plane no fly no where no how

Apologies for any I've left out, but can you see

We've got it and them scun if we just stick together

Union, united we will never be defeated

Roll on, roll on, roll on, roll on........................................
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More like "dream on, dream on, dream on".

Sorry to sound so cynical, but we're our own worst enemies.
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based on past experience, chances of getting the unions to agree on anything

SFA!
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Duff Man

You say :

unprecedented attack by the Howard Government on your rights at work
What rights ?

To bludge off and get away with it, and not ever get sacked ?

I say "Go Johnny Go" and down to all unions.

I spent a few weeks working in a highly unionised workplace and the bludgers were getting away with murder.

Like why do you need an extra 10 minutes to wash your hands and go to the toilet before smoko starts ? Its a bloody joke.

How can this be good for a company or the country ?

I believe Howard is doing what is best for country. He knows what he is doing and his economic track record speaks for itself.

United, United you WILL be defeated.
United, United, you HAVE BEEN defeated.

Howard controls the senate, the reforms will take place and nothing you can do about it. And as a result of the reforms, the Australian economy will improve.

So just admit defeat now, don't waste your resources and don't continue to make a bad name for yourself.
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You idiot.

Howard says: Lost days to Industrial Action ALREADY at their lowest.

Howard says: Productivity in Australian Industry ALREADY at it's highest.

Howard says: Unemployment ALREADY at historical low.

So, WHY the need for this legislation?

None - except deep seated ideaology, supported by corporate greed, and barracked on the sidelines by the facist ignorami such as the previous poster.

When the Liberal Party was first formed it was along the philosophical lines of SMALLER government, interfering LESS on individuals and REDUCING taxes. Looks like that has all gone by the by as well.

What a disgrace - and there are STILL idiots barracking for this lot? Sadly pathetic.
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On Sunday, our esteemed democratically elected leader said:

"I will never want it said of a government I lead that it missed the opportunity of a majority in the Senate to do some things that we could never otherwise do without that majority,"

and that the changes are "not because we hate the trade unions … millions of trade unionists voted for this party and this Government at the last election,"

and that the voters expect government "to legislate for things that we believe in."

(SMH link to full article)

These are the words of a fascist. Pure and simple.

But the ALP, unions have turned to softcox
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I much rather support facism then socialism/communism/unionism.

"Go Johnny GO GO GO"

Why the need for legislation ?

To make things even better, and better than the ALP ever could.

Why does he keep on getting re-elected all the time ? Obviously the majority support him.

The idiots must be the minority that don't support him.

United, United, YOU HAVE been defeated.

Just admit it.
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I think that Johnny knows what will and will not get him reelected. i have a feeling that being over the top in workplace relations (if he does it) will get the party outed. I think they will focus more on the small fish and avoid anything that will raise the anger of the vocal unions.
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Smrt Srbia - I much rather support facism
Just goes to prove two things:

1. We get the government we deserve

2. It must be school holidays somewhere
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Smrt Srbia - obviously latin for f@ckw!t, crawl back under your rock, parasite

Time to stand on your own two feet, people

Remember righteous good is the equal of fascist evil

It's going to be a hard four years
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 06:04
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Why did people vote for Howard?
Same reason as people speed in the wet.
Stupidity, and they don't think that they'll get hurt.
You need training and a licence to drive a car, but you don't need political education and a licence to vote.
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Why did people vote for Howard?
There was no alternative. The Labour party and it's Union cronies are as much to blame for this debacle as the Liberals.

John Howard is a great leader and the Liberal Party are organised with good policies and runs on the board. Get ready for many years of Liberal/National Party rule in this country.

As for the other mob, get yourself a decent leader and some positive policies and you just may be able to compete.
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John Howard is a great leader and the Liberal Party are organised with good policies and runs on the board


The first sign of absolute loss of touch with society is when these facist pricks start to beleive their own publicity
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could you imagine Latham running the show now ???
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