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Old 15th Jun 2005, 03:56
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Woomerii's Comment.

Very good comments on why's and wherefor's.

Certainly answered my request in a concise and balanced manner, Thankyou.

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Old 15th Jun 2005, 04:57
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There's that dry wit again......nice one
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Just like the coache's half time "spray" in the good old days !
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So let's see.
It's NOW okay to identify posters by their initials (presumably names must also be okay), and other uniquely identifying traits. To maintain a continued, concerted harassment - even on threads where there is no relevance in raising the harassed's name.
And to make DIRECT, unsubstantiated, false allegations.
But to then have it passed off with a comment by the moderator(s) along the lines of, "If your ego is that precious that it needs..........., then might we suggest that PPRuNe is a hazardous place for it to be exercised."

I entered PPRuNe early in the peace ( ). In FACT it wasn't so peaceful then - a spade was called a spade - and Danny allowed "things" to run their natural course.
There was no Woomera.
There was, simply, a [email protected]
.......and there were no legal threats.
Things blew up - and blew over.

IMHO, Woomera (ii), have added some confusion to the scene, by their INconsistency.
I do not want to enter into the "1989 compendium of nouns" - in spite of the pendulum decisions by the varying Woomerii, that allow it in one swing, and then obliterate any post that mentions "that" word shortly thereafter.
The only consistancy, has been the INconsistancy! (You aren't Japanese, perchance??!!).

From its inception, it has appeared to me, that the ONLY reason for the existence of Flying Ninja, was to DIRECTLY attack me as an individual, vs a nom de plume.
Please do a "search" on his posts to verify.

The process of establishing his true identity might well take some time (and $$'s - which will be passed on).
'"Like a thief in the night", he is happy to hide in his cesspool of deceit and secrecy, whilst making false, libellous accusations against victims whose personal details he revels in publishing.

Simply put, PERSONAL attacks are just not on - they NEVER have been. Even when Danny ran the show single-handedly, as a charter pilot on "Fraggle Rock", flying with a blanket to keep warm.
Personally, I know very, very, very few of the nom de plumes here.
Imo, the PERSON is not important.
His/her presentation, and the way in which it is presented (this is, after all A PROFESSIONAL pilots' forum), IS!

If there is a change in the "established values", then let us all know, Woomerii. So that we can ALL play by the SAME rules.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 16:32
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Kap,

If you make an insulting statement about Jews, you have PERSONALLY insulted and defamed all Jews individualy.

If you state that ALL members of a particular group have particular characteristics that are negative and defamatory, you have defamed every member of that group PERSONALLY.

Just how far do you want the lid of Pandorras Box opened?
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My Gawd

This place is soooo entertaining, (I doubt even Rotoroa or White Island is so volcanic & erupturous), it's amazing I didn't discover it before.

Now Kaptin, that it was recently stated there was a photo of you at Hanmer Springs I've had a divil of a time just locating it. Now the only time I've ever seen your picture before on PPRuNe was when you were stripped to the waist & me being a woman & all (pruddish though some may assume I might be), well I wasn't really concentrating on your face, handsome though it may be.

But may I say Kaptin much to my surprise you have the look of the exotic about you, could it be a hint of Oriental or Maori, maybe even Aborigini? More likely one of the first two, would I be right, how very interesting?

Personally, I know very, very, very few of the nom de plumes here.
Well, you blinking well know mine & I still don't even know YOUR first name yet.

Now don't let them get to you mate, just ignore them & don't start sueing me whatever you do cause I've had enough legal action been taken against me for the last couple of years & all I've left is the underwear I'm typing in.

Don't forget to let me know can you make Hanmer Springs around the 19th December, I'll know my definite itinerary soon. Looks like we've alot to talk about.

Chin up & try to put the hurt & past behind you. Okay!

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I have personally seen Kaptin M stand up against someone who made defamous posts on PPRuNe re: Jews & demand an apology. What are you talking about?

P.S. Kaptin, your kids are so cute.

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Omaha,

Try looking up the word ANALOGY and then get back to me...
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Grrr

I could think of a hundred & one better analogy's & ways of putting your point across than that mate without resulting to tactless, false cr@p. I did guess that it may be what you were about in a peculiar very round about way.

The way you go on you'd swear Kaptin M was some kind of raving anti-semitic which I can assure you from reading his posts, he's not!

What are you going to accuse him falsely of next, seems like he's open season.

Try to come up with some better comparisons oh sorry "analogys" in future for your own sake.

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Actually it is "analogies".

Or did you mean "analagous"???
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I could think of a hundred & one better analogy's
OK, defame all CIRCUS CLOWNS and you defame each CIRCUS CLOWN.... Happy now?? Do Circus Clowns have fewer rights than Jewish people?


What are you going to accuse him falsely of next
Would you care to point out where, in the above post, I have accused the Kap of anything? I presented two hypothetical senarios, showing that defaming a particuar group in general has the same effect as defaming an individual in that group personally. Your rather hysterical if inarticulate reply actually serves to make my point.

it's amazing I didn't discover it before.
Perhaps if you HAD come across it earlier, including the several pages of previous discusstion which have been deleated, you would be more qualified to comment.

Try to come up with some better comparisons oh sorry "analogys" in future for your own sake.
Or else what?
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Thank you again for your kind words, and support, Omaha.
Yes, occasionally this place gets hotter than Jet Blast (to the casual observer). Why even scrubed is here, to keep a check on everyones' punkchewashun and spieling!
As far as I'm aware, both parents were Caucasian (Anglo-saxon)...as far as I'm aware. Do you have any Aussie in you?

Wiz, the insults from your mate - I presume you know him - were directed solely at me eg. "You are xxxxx", not "I think.." nor "in my opinion", and over a long period of time, after making sure he had positively established my true identity.
"The publication of defamatory matter is an actionable wrong at common law or by statute, the purpose of which is to vindicate and protect the reputation of the person defamed. For the loss of reputation defamation is ordinarily the only action. Where a person’s reputation is injured by such a defamatory publication, the law in all jurisdictions provides a remedy in the form of damages or, more rarely, by way of injunctive relief.
The common law distinguishes between libel, where the defamatory statement is made in writing or some other permanent form, and slander, where it is communicated orally or in some other transient form.2 In an action for libel, the law presumes that damage will result from the very act of publication.
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You are referring to cases that may involve a class action suit.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 21:24
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Kap,

If you were to publish defamatory comments about a group of which I am a member, you damage my reputation and I, as an individual, would have a cause of action, as would every other member of that group. Whether individual members of said group wished to take out a class action, or proceed with individual claims , would be up to them not you.

I would also point out that the action of a moderator removing personal insults from your posts after publication would not protect you. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it stays out.

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutley no intention of pursuing you or anyone for comments made about me or any group I'm involved with, but if I were you I would seriously ask myself whether my conduct had been so blemish free as to not leave myself open should legal action be instigated.

I have no idea who Flying Ninja is, and I don't agree with his methods. I would just ask you to consider that your aggressive, insulting, condesending and often contradictory style taken against people you disagree with or who disagree with you (I saw an exchange today regarding a 767s nosewheel in which you launched into someone for no justifiable reason as an example) leads to resentment and extreme dislike. To get prissy and litigious when someone exceeds YOUR boundaries is, to my mind, a smidge hypocritical.
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 06:34
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This really is tremendously entertaining.....next please.....
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 11:41
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Isn't it? And I have absolutely no idea what it is all about....
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 13:17
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To be Frank, neither do I!!!
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Old 16th Jun 2005, 14:26
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Are you actually allowed to say that word here...???
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Old 17th Jun 2005, 11:17
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Geez all the youth took the sting outta the BS..................wow how unusual!
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Old 17th Jun 2005, 11:36
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Do you have to be smoking crack to understand what you old fossils are all on about...???
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Old 17th Jun 2005, 11:45
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Question

I think that the Hon. Hercules Grtpype-Thynne said it best.
"It's all rather confusing really!"

You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
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Old 17th Jun 2005, 12:12
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Nah you just need to have spent your life in a PNG clip joint, guzzling rotgut and getting all manner of nasty infections from the locals... ain't been there, you ain't a real man... etc etc etc...
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