The Regulatory Reform Program will drift along forever
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I hear that Fort Fumble is ramping up its L&D section, tonnes more staff, trainers, the whole lot. Likely to do with the FAA coming back in October and future examinations by ICAO.And not to mention that it is a state requirement under ICAO to provide levels of training,yet some buffoons in the upper echelon decided it would be a great way to cull numbers and save money by destroying that section a couple of years ago. Some of the toecutters who had a hand in that ludicrous decision are gone, but naturally some have been promoted, complete with nice fat salaries, to higher positions in the Principate. What a surprise.
A further surprise is a return of a standards division. Again, in an attempt to save money and cut numbers the toecutters offloaded this department a couple of years back. The place has turned into a greater mess since then, and surprise surprise, the department of standards is returning, but in a smaller version.
My source tells me that Fort Fumbles incompetent HR machine is running amok and completely unbridled and placing more and more internal staff offside by the day and that there are a huge amount of actions been taken against them internally and that the place is splitting apart at the seams. Not pretty for a government organisation.
Lastly, my source tells me that their books are overflowing with the services being rendered by consultants at the moment. Seems the internal staff can't handle the workload and are out of their depth. Most of the consultants are wait for it; former staff members. Nice work, mates rates rule !
Now raise your glasses and offer up a toast to another 22 years.......
A further surprise is a return of a standards division. Again, in an attempt to save money and cut numbers the toecutters offloaded this department a couple of years back. The place has turned into a greater mess since then, and surprise surprise, the department of standards is returning, but in a smaller version.
My source tells me that Fort Fumbles incompetent HR machine is running amok and completely unbridled and placing more and more internal staff offside by the day and that there are a huge amount of actions been taken against them internally and that the place is splitting apart at the seams. Not pretty for a government organisation.
Lastly, my source tells me that their books are overflowing with the services being rendered by consultants at the moment. Seems the internal staff can't handle the workload and are out of their depth. Most of the consultants are wait for it; former staff members. Nice work, mates rates rule !
Now raise your glasses and offer up a toast to another 22 years.......
Mach E Avelli,
As I've said before, I'd tend to take it even further ....
Just start with one rule ....
A pipe dream, I know ...
As I've said before, I'd tend to take it even further ....
Just start with one rule ....
- Don't intentionally put anyone's life or property in danger by an action, or omition, as adjudged by a reasonable person aware of all the pertinent facts.
A pipe dream, I know ...
In the good old days (way back in the 60's), CASA or DCA as it was then known, was a respected organisation. Examiners were exactly that. Ex- airline or military pilots. None of this cop-out getting your licence test done by the school that had taken your money and wanted your repeat business - you did it with the man from the Department. On the flight test nothing much got past them. Every now and then they would rock up with scales in hand, pull a ramp check concentrating on loading, fuelling and general condition of the aeroplane. The airworthiness guys were of similar ilk, descending on workshops to make sure all the lockwire was done up etc. Good, practical stuff. Woe betide you or the boss if they found something seriously wrong, but minor infractions were dealt with on the spot by a reading of the riot act.
Now we have all sorts of tertiary-qualified geek-types who relish in the 'desk-top audit'. What a crock. So the ops manual index does not perfectly match the contents? This is a huge deal, so CASA issues a non-compliance notice. To make your operation so much safer, so there.... One auditor once gave me a huge spray because the ops manual I had submitted did not have a whole section dedicated to stating that English was our official language and showing how the company would ensure proficiency of all staff in reading, writing and understanding that language.
Similar mentality now requires 300 page-thick instruction manuals with every electric food blender or toaster sold. Written in 10 languages, these tomes all contain standardized dire warnings not to stick your fingers in the gubbins, but not much else of any practical use. I have one of these manuals with my motorbike which is capable of 200 kmh. It tells me in larged boxed print not to ride it too fast because it could result in injury (they don't mention death or speeding tickets - maybe I need to update them on the other possible consequences?), but nowhere does it tell me the torques of one single critical nut or bolt. Try shearing an axle bolt, boys and girls....
This is the mentality of people entrusted with our country's aviation regulation.
Now we have all sorts of tertiary-qualified geek-types who relish in the 'desk-top audit'. What a crock. So the ops manual index does not perfectly match the contents? This is a huge deal, so CASA issues a non-compliance notice. To make your operation so much safer, so there.... One auditor once gave me a huge spray because the ops manual I had submitted did not have a whole section dedicated to stating that English was our official language and showing how the company would ensure proficiency of all staff in reading, writing and understanding that language.
Similar mentality now requires 300 page-thick instruction manuals with every electric food blender or toaster sold. Written in 10 languages, these tomes all contain standardized dire warnings not to stick your fingers in the gubbins, but not much else of any practical use. I have one of these manuals with my motorbike which is capable of 200 kmh. It tells me in larged boxed print not to ride it too fast because it could result in injury (they don't mention death or speeding tickets - maybe I need to update them on the other possible consequences?), but nowhere does it tell me the torques of one single critical nut or bolt. Try shearing an axle bolt, boys and girls....
This is the mentality of people entrusted with our country's aviation regulation.
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This may be the problem, Fort Fumble was unfortunately built on the site of the Worlds largest known reserve of this element. In fact most of Canberra is riddled with it.
Administratium: a New Element
Investigators at a major research institution recently discovered the heaviest element known to science and have tentatively named it Administratium.
Administratium has no protons or electrons, thus having an atomic number of 0. It has, however, 1 neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons and 111 assistant vice neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
These 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the continuous exchange of a meson-like particle called morons. It is also surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Since it has no electrons, Administratium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes into contact with.
According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratium caused one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than a second.
Administratium has a half-life of approximately three years. It does not decay but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons, vice neutrons and assistant vice neutrons exchange places.
In fact, Administratium's mass will actually increase over time, since with each reorganization some of the morons inevitably become neutrons forming new isotopes. This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to speculate that Administratium is spontaneously formed whenever moron concentration reaches a certain level. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as the Critical Morass.
Administratium: a New Element
Investigators at a major research institution recently discovered the heaviest element known to science and have tentatively named it Administratium.
Administratium has no protons or electrons, thus having an atomic number of 0. It has, however, 1 neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons and 111 assistant vice neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
These 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the continuous exchange of a meson-like particle called morons. It is also surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Since it has no electrons, Administratium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes into contact with.
According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratium caused one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than a second.
Administratium has a half-life of approximately three years. It does not decay but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons, vice neutrons and assistant vice neutrons exchange places.
In fact, Administratium's mass will actually increase over time, since with each reorganization some of the morons inevitably become neutrons forming new isotopes. This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to speculate that Administratium is spontaneously formed whenever moron concentration reaches a certain level. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as the Critical Morass.
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This may be the problem, Fort Fumble was unfortunately built on the site of the Worlds largest known reserve of this element
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It's really gunna happen this time. (The Skull)
For more than a decade, progress on reviewing and updating Australia's aviation safety regulations has not been satisfactory. While about half of the regulations have been updated and included in the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations, key areas did not move ahead as planned. Right now, however, everyone is seeing solid progress in getting new rules in place for central parts of the regulations. The latest step forward is the release of the draft general operating and flight rules – Part 91 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations. There is more detail on these draft rules in an item below. I would like to urge everyone in aviation to look at the draft and provide comments to CASA as the proposed rules do not just affect private and professional pilots. Aircraft owners, maintainers, cabin crew, loading personnel, refuelers, air display organisers and air traffic contollers all need to understand what the new rules will look like and how they might impact on their area of operations. The good news is that the proposed general operating and flight rules are not a radical departure from the existing regulations, although there are changes where it was clear that safety could be improved.
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It’s the tragicomedy that keeps on delivering the laughs and tears
From The Australian of 4 Nov 11:
I wonder where have I heard the words ‘close’, ‘expects’ and ‘may not’ before …
And the ‘middle’ of what ‘year’ are they talking about? It can’t be this calendar year: the middle’s already passed. It can’t be financial year 11/12: the middle’s nearly upon us. So maybe it’s the middle of 2012?
In any event, I’ll bet folding money that the ‘new’ rules – they are of course just the rest of the 1998 regulations – won’t be complete by the middle of 2012, won’t be in place before the end of 2014, and Mr McCormick won’t be around then.
It’s the tragicomedy that just keeps on giving.
Civil Aviation Safety Authority close on reform of rules
THE Civil Aviation Safety Authority says it is to[sic] close to finishing its long-running regulatory reforms and expects to have the new rules complete by the middle of the year.
But CASA safety director John McCormick says the new regulations may not be in place before the end of 2014.
THE Civil Aviation Safety Authority says it is to[sic] close to finishing its long-running regulatory reforms and expects to have the new rules complete by the middle of the year.
But CASA safety director John McCormick says the new regulations may not be in place before the end of 2014.
And the ‘middle’ of what ‘year’ are they talking about? It can’t be this calendar year: the middle’s already passed. It can’t be financial year 11/12: the middle’s nearly upon us. So maybe it’s the middle of 2012?
In any event, I’ll bet folding money that the ‘new’ rules – they are of course just the rest of the 1998 regulations – won’t be complete by the middle of 2012, won’t be in place before the end of 2014, and Mr McCormick won’t be around then.
It’s the tragicomedy that just keeps on giving.
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Creampuff, I doubt Comedy is the right term , tragic or not. The whole thing is a farce and makes a mockery of administrative rigour or competent management.
The current Directorate are more interested in spin and prosecution than establishing effective legally responsible and defensible regulation.
The current Directorate are more interested in spin and prosecution than establishing effective legally responsible and defensible regulation.
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Creampuff,
Thanks for the update (if you can realistically call it that). Certainly makes for a good laugh, and I need a good laugh right now! I am surprised that the Skull didn't use the word 'intent'?
Regardless, it is the same rhetoric rolled out every so often, as has been done previously by around 6 former Director's/Ministers etc. When you don't hold people 'accountable' for their actions (or lack of action) that is when you get the same old statements dragged out of the closet every so often, re-dressed in a nice new lining and put out to the short-memory of the community, as something 'productive'. My guess is the fact that Mr Skull is bleating on about reg reform, again, would be because the Senate are sniffing around this issue and asking questions, and the Minister, CASA Board and CASA executives are trying a pre-emptive strike to deflect any adverse or in their eyes 'unwanted' attention.
Personally, I am planning on hosting a '25 Year Reform Party' in less than 18 months, when the clock ticks over to the quarter of a century mark since they started working on reform! I am confident we will make it to 25 years. Infact, one of my kids was born, finished uni and had 2 children in the space of the past 25 years, not to mention my fond memories of flying 727 passenger services around this fine country of ours.
Actually, as a legacy to my children, I am going to include in my will a clause that when I finally peg out and leave this world, my children carry on the fight to make sure the regulatory reform program is completed within their life time.
What can I say but, 'regulation by postulation'.
Thanks for the update (if you can realistically call it that). Certainly makes for a good laugh, and I need a good laugh right now! I am surprised that the Skull didn't use the word 'intent'?
Regardless, it is the same rhetoric rolled out every so often, as has been done previously by around 6 former Director's/Ministers etc. When you don't hold people 'accountable' for their actions (or lack of action) that is when you get the same old statements dragged out of the closet every so often, re-dressed in a nice new lining and put out to the short-memory of the community, as something 'productive'. My guess is the fact that Mr Skull is bleating on about reg reform, again, would be because the Senate are sniffing around this issue and asking questions, and the Minister, CASA Board and CASA executives are trying a pre-emptive strike to deflect any adverse or in their eyes 'unwanted' attention.
Personally, I am planning on hosting a '25 Year Reform Party' in less than 18 months, when the clock ticks over to the quarter of a century mark since they started working on reform! I am confident we will make it to 25 years. Infact, one of my kids was born, finished uni and had 2 children in the space of the past 25 years, not to mention my fond memories of flying 727 passenger services around this fine country of ours.
Actually, as a legacy to my children, I am going to include in my will a clause that when I finally peg out and leave this world, my children carry on the fight to make sure the regulatory reform program is completed within their life time.
What can I say but, 'regulation by postulation'.
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This thread has been running since 20 February 2005, at which time Regulatory Reforn had been running for sixteen years and seven months. My guess there is a number of years yet to the life of this thread.
It is now 23 years and two months and probably somewhere north of $200 million in cost since Regulatory Reform commenced. Like a long running theatre comedy, only the actors change.
I am not taking Creampuff up on his bet!
It is now 23 years and two months and probably somewhere north of $200 million in cost since Regulatory Reform commenced. Like a long running theatre comedy, only the actors change.
I am not taking Creampuff up on his bet!
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Originally Posted by Creampuff
It’s taken nearly 10 years to build the regulatory equivalent of the Spruce Goose in that hangar on the corner of Northbourne and Barry. No one’s going to redesign and rebuild it in one year. If they do, it’s going to be one ugly, inefficient bird.
New building, new pot plants, more parking, same
les.
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On 2 October 1994, VH-SVQ operated by Seaview Air was lost with all nine souls on board.
The report of the $20 million Commission of Inquiry by Commission Staunton into the Relations between the Civil Aviation Authority and Seaview Air followed. Commissioner Staunton's fifth recommendation was:
I note from the newspaper report I quoted above that:
Are governments and their agencies now so bereft of integrity and competence, that 20 years could pass from the Seaview tragedy without one substantial syllable having changed in the regulations to address that recommendation?
An ‘urgent’ recommendation founded on the loss of 9 innocent lives.
20 years?
Not one syllable?
Where are we going to find the necessary critical mass of people with sufficient integrity and competence to actually produce something in response to that recommendation?
I think it’s an out-and-out national disgrace.
The report of the $20 million Commission of Inquiry by Commission Staunton into the Relations between the Civil Aviation Authority and Seaview Air followed. Commissioner Staunton's fifth recommendation was:
That in respect of Civil Aviation Regulation 206 (relating to various forms of commercial operations, including regular public transport operations) urgent consideration be given to amending or replacing the Regulation to overcome the problems identified in the course of the Commission.
[T]he new regulations may not be in place before the end of 2014.
An ‘urgent’ recommendation founded on the loss of 9 innocent lives.
20 years?
Not one syllable?
Where are we going to find the necessary critical mass of people with sufficient integrity and competence to actually produce something in response to that recommendation?
I think it’s an out-and-out national disgrace.
progress... the usual.!
Things are moving along apace.!
Big announcement in June about the NEW bright and shiny "Safety" ( just gotta have that word in there) Task Force... to look at requirements for the need for changes re having AOCs and etc. Starting with the Ag boys... those that actually have their heads together, but no matter.
It will run for TWO years. Hullo...?
Latest "crash comic" states that its almost ready to start, give or take a couple of months....! So there's about EIGHT months gone already.!
Must have had a committtee to formulate guidelines for an action plan to be promulgated once the sub committee had arrived at a recommendation on whether the task force could do everything within the time frame , not yet certifed by the founding group.
See? Give the poor buggers a break!. It just that time slips away far to easily these days. Regular announcements give the minister the idea that something is actually in the process of happening, but after a couple of years, a change of minister, a new skull up on the hobby horse, and all will be forgotten.
And in 2018 there will be an announcement that the Regulatory Review will be reaching its conclusion in a year... or so, possibly.
Big announcement in June about the NEW bright and shiny "Safety" ( just gotta have that word in there) Task Force... to look at requirements for the need for changes re having AOCs and etc. Starting with the Ag boys... those that actually have their heads together, but no matter.
It will run for TWO years. Hullo...?
Latest "crash comic" states that its almost ready to start, give or take a couple of months....! So there's about EIGHT months gone already.!
Must have had a committtee to formulate guidelines for an action plan to be promulgated once the sub committee had arrived at a recommendation on whether the task force could do everything within the time frame , not yet certifed by the founding group.
See? Give the poor buggers a break!. It just that time slips away far to easily these days. Regular announcements give the minister the idea that something is actually in the process of happening, but after a couple of years, a change of minister, a new skull up on the hobby horse, and all will be forgotten.
And in 2018 there will be an announcement that the Regulatory Review will be reaching its conclusion in a year... or so, possibly.
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aroa, does this mean the now infamously rumored ASOP has gotten back together for another crack at blowing taxpayer funds? I would have thought that after 34 projects and $5 million (of which not one project was actually finished) they might have learned a lesson?
More projects, more vision statements, more glossy words and more empty statements, more funds for the regulatory reform program Mr Minister......
More projects, more vision statements, more glossy words and more empty statements, more funds for the regulatory reform program Mr Minister......
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"We dare not allow politicians to establish the principle that senior civil servants can be removed for incompetence. We could loose dozens of our chaps. Hundreds maybe. Even thousands."
The word "INCOMPETENT" keeps coming up. When will somebody rule the page off and say lets start again or go back to the beginning.
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Peace for our time! Civil Aviation Safety Authority - July 2012
Let’s hope ‘shortly’ doesn’t have the same meaning as ‘not be long’, as quoted in the first post in this thread 7 years ago.
CASA will have the remaining new parts of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations made as law shortly, bringing an effective end to the regulatory reform program.
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and creamie that will be the point where everyone should close their doors and go do something else...Well done you have achieved perfect safety!! I guess you'll be enjoying your bonuses and super.
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Heysoos wept, TB. What on earth are you on about (or taking)? Have you not read what I’ve said in this thread?
Good guess. But my bonuses and super have nothing to do with CASA or the regulatory reform program.
Do you not want this appalling expensive and chronically unproductive journey in circles to end?
I guess you'll be enjoying your bonuses and super.
Do you not want this appalling expensive and chronically unproductive journey in circles to end?