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Public Safety is Paramount
No. 25/04
Airservices Australia Chief Executive Officer, Bernie Smith, today called for an end to alarmist and unsubstantiated statements being levelled against the national air traffic control corporation its staff and management and other members of the aviation community.
He made the call following statements made on Perth and Canberra radio stations by Dick Smith.
‘The management of the corporation has come to expect inaccurate remarks from Mr Smith, but when these attack the corporation’s staff, question the integrity of investigating authorities and unnecessarily alarm the public - then enough is enough,” Bernie Smith said.
‘We are considering legal action against Dick Smith concerning a number of his allegations against the corporation and staff,’ he added.
Bernie Smith said the statement “I wouldn’t recommend anyone flying into Canberra at night or in cloud at all, because it looks as if there is a real problem with the radar there’, made on Perth ABC radio station, 720, yesterday was totally irresponsible in the context of an ongoing ATSB inquiry.
Unfortunately, Dick Smith is also seeking to inappropriately link his airspace reform agenda by using a recent tragic accident at Benalla , Victoria and a ground proximity warning event near Canberra.
‘The Australian Transport Safety Bureau is the agency with legislative responsibility for investigating such aviation events, incidents and accidents and the ATSB, our own staff, and others must be free to carry out investigations unimpeded by such speculation.
‘It is highly inappropriate to debate these issues through the media while they are being dealt with by the ATSB, and in the case of Benalla, a likely coronial inquiry,’ Bernie Smith said.
Dick Smith launched legal proceedings against Airservices Australia in the Federal Court this week, to overturn a decision of the Corporation Board to introduce changes to the National Airspace System on 25 November 2004 . This matter will be heard on 1 November 2004.
‘Airservices Australia will not engage in a ‘trial by media’ during these investigations or this current litigation,’ Bernie Smith said.
‘I reassure everyone that in the interests of safety, we are continuing with the implementation program for the 25 November changes, which include comprehensive industry training and education and the distribution of new radio frequency boundaries on aeronautical charts.
‘Airservices Australia ’s primary focus is on safety and it will not bow to the pressures of individuals or groups,’ he said.
For further information contact: Richard Dudley
0412 146 828
Date: 24 September 2004
Public Safety is Paramount
No. 25/04
Airservices Australia Chief Executive Officer, Bernie Smith, today called for an end to alarmist and unsubstantiated statements being levelled against the national air traffic control corporation its staff and management and other members of the aviation community.
He made the call following statements made on Perth and Canberra radio stations by Dick Smith.
‘The management of the corporation has come to expect inaccurate remarks from Mr Smith, but when these attack the corporation’s staff, question the integrity of investigating authorities and unnecessarily alarm the public - then enough is enough,” Bernie Smith said.
‘We are considering legal action against Dick Smith concerning a number of his allegations against the corporation and staff,’ he added.
Bernie Smith said the statement “I wouldn’t recommend anyone flying into Canberra at night or in cloud at all, because it looks as if there is a real problem with the radar there’, made on Perth ABC radio station, 720, yesterday was totally irresponsible in the context of an ongoing ATSB inquiry.
Unfortunately, Dick Smith is also seeking to inappropriately link his airspace reform agenda by using a recent tragic accident at Benalla , Victoria and a ground proximity warning event near Canberra.
‘The Australian Transport Safety Bureau is the agency with legislative responsibility for investigating such aviation events, incidents and accidents and the ATSB, our own staff, and others must be free to carry out investigations unimpeded by such speculation.
‘It is highly inappropriate to debate these issues through the media while they are being dealt with by the ATSB, and in the case of Benalla, a likely coronial inquiry,’ Bernie Smith said.
Dick Smith launched legal proceedings against Airservices Australia in the Federal Court this week, to overturn a decision of the Corporation Board to introduce changes to the National Airspace System on 25 November 2004 . This matter will be heard on 1 November 2004.
‘Airservices Australia will not engage in a ‘trial by media’ during these investigations or this current litigation,’ Bernie Smith said.
‘I reassure everyone that in the interests of safety, we are continuing with the implementation program for the 25 November changes, which include comprehensive industry training and education and the distribution of new radio frequency boundaries on aeronautical charts.
‘Airservices Australia ’s primary focus is on safety and it will not bow to the pressures of individuals or groups,’ he said.
For further information contact: Richard Dudley
0412 146 828
Date: 24 September 2004
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I didn't think I would agree on much with Bernie Smith, but on this subject credit where credit is due: He is 100% right.
It will cost even more dollars that have to be recovered from the Aviation industry to fight Dick Smith in the courts - and it is all Dicks doing.
Thanks again Dick for looking after GA.
It will cost even more dollars that have to be recovered from the Aviation industry to fight Dick Smith in the courts - and it is all Dicks doing.
Thanks again Dick for looking after GA.
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Whereabouts can I donate some money to the "Sue the Dick(head) fund, for slander and lible " ?
I am sure that there would be much money raised to stop this idiot.
Gimme a link and I shall donate!
I am sure that there would be much money raised to stop this idiot.
Gimme a link and I shall donate!
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chief wiggum; Whilst I would generally support the idea you raised in your post I do have one reservation.
Why make even more (expletive deleted 'cos I don't wanna get banned) Silks/Barristers/Lawyers richer?
The biccies man will surely sink himself into the oblivion that is waiting for him without any further input from any assistance that the 'Legal system' can supply.
Just my thought anyway.
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
Why make even more (expletive deleted 'cos I don't wanna get banned) Silks/Barristers/Lawyers richer?
The biccies man will surely sink himself into the oblivion that is waiting for him without any further input from any assistance that the 'Legal system' can supply.
Just my thought anyway.
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Fair call Pinky ....
How about this...
I will contribute money to be held by someone responsible (not your former employers in SA!!!). We find a lawyer who will work on a "no win, no fee" system, and if he/she will work pro-bono, then ALL of Australian Aviation can have a HUGE party, a bit like "the worlds biggest BBQ" a couple of years ago, to celebrate the gagging of Australian Aviations biggest hypochondriac ?
How about this...
I will contribute money to be held by someone responsible (not your former employers in SA!!!). We find a lawyer who will work on a "no win, no fee" system, and if he/she will work pro-bono, then ALL of Australian Aviation can have a HUGE party, a bit like "the worlds biggest BBQ" a couple of years ago, to celebrate the gagging of Australian Aviations biggest hypochondriac ?
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‘Airservices Australia ’s primary focus is on safety '
Yeah RIGHT! Never have I heard such codswollop. If that is a true and correct statement, then why do Airservices charge the recreational pilot to get the weather, submit a flight notification or even ammend the notification.
It has everything to do with making obscene amounts of profits, so the Senior Managment can take home equally obscene amounts of bonuses.
Anyone want to let the industry in on how much AsA forks out on bonuses??? Go on, We won't tell anyone........
Rant over.
Yeah RIGHT! Never have I heard such codswollop. If that is a true and correct statement, then why do Airservices charge the recreational pilot to get the weather, submit a flight notification or even ammend the notification.
It has everything to do with making obscene amounts of profits, so the Senior Managment can take home equally obscene amounts of bonuses.
Anyone want to let the industry in on how much AsA forks out on bonuses??? Go on, We won't tell anyone........
Rant over.
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If safety was important to them, then forecasts and notams would be easier to get, and understand. The miltary style system of putting every thig in code and using fictitous locations makes it necessary to constantly study thier data to mke it understandable. What is wrong with saying "the ridges are obscured," and things like that, instead of a string of numbers?We speak english in this country, and most people understand it???????
And why do we need a password.?. Is it all secret??
And why do we need a password.?. Is it all secret??
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BM,
I agree with your point about bonuses - totally inappropriate.
But how accurate are your other statements? Just like in Dicks Mecca, the USA, here in Australia I can get all that information from the AIS/MET system for no charge, and submit a flightplan for no charge using the net.
I agree with your point about bonuses - totally inappropriate.
But how accurate are your other statements? Just like in Dicks Mecca, the USA, here in Australia I can get all that information from the AIS/MET system for no charge, and submit a flightplan for no charge using the net.
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I see the only one of those associations that could benefit as AOPA. They are the only one to back NAS and not a change to the pricing system. The others are trying to fix it and they are heir own worst enemy.
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Because it is not based on fact.
Show me where AOPA are doing that. Prove to me that when I fly PVT I should pay en-route under a user pays system. Show me why 'user pays' is rational in a safety enironment.
Why are you wrong, because you seem fixated on AOPA bashing and not on the real problem, Government Ideology.
Show me where AOPA are doing that. Prove to me that when I fly PVT I should pay en-route under a user pays system. Show me why 'user pays' is rational in a safety enironment.
Why are you wrong, because you seem fixated on AOPA bashing and not on the real problem, Government Ideology.
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You show me how the other associations can benefit from it. I do not agree with user pays. I agree with safe airspace using tha available resources that this country has. A bunch of tossers with their own planes should not dictate this when the history disputes you.
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Guys, guys, guys!
Settle down, there is a common enemy.
Everyone deserves a safe airspace. It has to be paid for somehow, and that is either through your taxes, or through a user pays system. Either way you have to pay for it.
As for weather and Notams in code. Sorry Bushy, but Airservices does not dictate how this information is formatted and presented. Thats ICAO, they dictate the format. It the same everywhere as far as I know.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong. But if you use the net, is there still a charge for Wx and Notams and submitting flight plans?
Settle down, there is a common enemy.
Everyone deserves a safe airspace. It has to be paid for somehow, and that is either through your taxes, or through a user pays system. Either way you have to pay for it.
As for weather and Notams in code. Sorry Bushy, but Airservices does not dictate how this information is formatted and presented. Thats ICAO, they dictate the format. It the same everywhere as far as I know.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong. But if you use the net, is there still a charge for Wx and Notams and submitting flight plans?
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YCKT ,
Maybe I've misinterpreted the context of this statement, but the fact is (and was pre-NAS 2b) that VFR aircraft do not attract an enroute fee.
Personally, as a VFR only pilot, I feel ripped off by Dick space. Pre-NAS 2b I would submit flight details, request a clearance as appropriate (& did actually get briefly delayed once) then receive a full separation and flight following service. Outside the terminal areas, this was absolutely free. Now at the same altitudes/levels I get nothing.
BM
Airservices is not a Wx forecasting service/business. It is however, one of the BOM's biggest customers. It pays the BOM huge fees to provide that information. If you don't think the end user should pay for it, then who should? If your argument is that it should be free, fine, I have no problem with that. Try convincing the BOM first though.
Prove to me that when I fly PVT I should pay en-route under a user pays system.
Personally, as a VFR only pilot, I feel ripped off by Dick space. Pre-NAS 2b I would submit flight details, request a clearance as appropriate (& did actually get briefly delayed once) then receive a full separation and flight following service. Outside the terminal areas, this was absolutely free. Now at the same altitudes/levels I get nothing.
BM
why do Airservices charge the recreational pilot to get the weather