Defect Reporting
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Hmm, Why do pilots carry unserviceabilities all day without reporting them and logging them correctly in the techlog?
Wait, wait, I know this one, just a minute...
I know! To get to the other side!
Wait, wait, I know this one, just a minute...
I know! To get to the other side!
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Because we're lazy. Usually too busy napping or reading the paper, then suddenly remember as we're parking... too late now so just get on FLT and say,
"Good ship, mate... "
Then it's someone else's probllem...... namely yours, Oh-Lame-One. Besides we prefer you to fix everything at once. Gotta keep those grubby hands busy!!!
Why did you think???
"Good ship, mate...
"Then it's someone else's probllem...... namely yours, Oh-Lame-One. Besides we prefer you to fix everything at once. Gotta keep those grubby hands busy!!!
Why did you think???
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There are always exceptions to the rule and one pilot always handed me a part of the control panel and said "shes tech, came off in my hands" heaven help his girl friend but that was because the crews were shorthaul and did up to 4 rotations in a day . Only way to go out of hours
Guess It plays both ways
Tall and tasty
Guess It plays both ways
Tall and tasty
ROFL!!!!!!!!
However its now happened to me twice and I am starting to get concerned - if it happens a third time, I'm going to go into full aggro mode.
Q: Whats happened you ask?
A: When I ask someone to write something up and they say "Didn't you know about that? Its been doing that a bit lately"
Surprise one - a sticking Cessna flap switch that resulted in a forced landing, thankfully on the runway.
Surprise Number Two - Tower gives me clearance to take off yesterday and when I gunned it (in best 1-2-3 fashion) the engine simply died, leaving me sitting on the Piano Keys like a total pratt. Fortunately it restarted, but it almost did it again during a forced landing practice.
Response when I get back? "Aww is it doing that again?"
Personally I think the accelerator pump needs looking at.
However its now happened to me twice and I am starting to get concerned - if it happens a third time, I'm going to go into full aggro mode.
Q: Whats happened you ask?
A: When I ask someone to write something up and they say "Didn't you know about that? Its been doing that a bit lately"
Surprise one - a sticking Cessna flap switch that resulted in a forced landing, thankfully on the runway.
Surprise Number Two - Tower gives me clearance to take off yesterday and when I gunned it (in best 1-2-3 fashion) the engine simply died, leaving me sitting on the Piano Keys like a total pratt. Fortunately it restarted, but it almost did it again during a forced landing practice.
Response when I get back? "Aww is it doing that again?"
Personally I think the accelerator pump needs looking at.
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I think you have all missed Lame1 subtle suggestion chaps.
Certain large national carriers may have quite some difficulty in a possible forthcoming dispute to run their aircraft if quite a lot faults were reported..... can I be any less subtle....etc. etc.
Certain large national carriers may have quite some difficulty in a possible forthcoming dispute to run their aircraft if quite a lot faults were reported..... can I be any less subtle....etc. etc.
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The answer is straight forward to anyone that has flown GA in Australia..You don't log defects in the maintenance release because you get a reputation for being a grass and you get the sack. If you decide to risk your job and log the defect always make sure you have the chief pilots approval to write it up. He may want to hide the defect from CASA in case a couple of charters come up and he needs the aircraft. Only the chief pilot knows the Big Picture...
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Almost correct......... 
When the Chief Pilot and the boss are seperate individuals, the CP is usually the boss's lapdog and does what he says without knowing why.
The CP will grumble about proper maintenance, then roll over when the boss mentions that 'big charter' coming up... At least that's how it was out at ***.
Only the Boss knows the Big Picture.
When the Chief Pilot and the boss are seperate individuals, the CP is usually the boss's lapdog and does what he says without knowing why.
The CP will grumble about proper maintenance, then roll over when the boss mentions that 'big charter' coming up... At least that's how it was out at ***.
Only the Boss knows the Big Picture.
Noone's calling it professional. Situations where the CP or Boss is deciding whether something really needs to be written up or not, and the pilots are going along with it, is a reflection on the safety culture of the company concerned and it's definitely NOT professional. It's also a reflection on the traditionally uneven supply and demand equation for GA pilots and jobs.
In companies I've worked for, I've been able to write up anything I felt required it without worrying about people getting upset over missed flights. There are some GA companies around where this isn't encouraged though.
In companies I've worked for, I've been able to write up anything I felt required it without worrying about people getting upset over missed flights. There are some GA companies around where this isn't encouraged though.
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Just wondering why a sticking Cessna flap switch would necessitate a landing anywhere other than a runway. A quite common occurence with Cessnas in GA. I would much rather cruise around at flaps 20 that put down in the trees.
Back on topic - I know of a particular GA mainentance outfit that used to do 100hrlys with a pen only. You would be 'professional' and write up defects but find that nothing was fixed. Just get back a clean MR.
If you want to quick fix to this whole defecting issue - Put all pilots on the Full-time Award. Then pilots wouldn't need to worry about defecting (grounding) their income source.
a sticking Cessna flap switch that resulted in a forced landing, thankfully on the runway.
Back on topic - I know of a particular GA mainentance outfit that used to do 100hrlys with a pen only. You would be 'professional' and write up defects but find that nothing was fixed. Just get back a clean MR.
If you want to quick fix to this whole defecting issue - Put all pilots on the Full-time Award. Then pilots wouldn't need to worry about defecting (grounding) their income source.
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Qantas has a huge shortage of pilots that are prepared to follow the policy and procedures.
Stop Press-Another incident in NT on sunday.QF a/c arrives into an unmanned base with PA and interphone problems,what do they do,the answer is fly the a/c home like good little sheep then put the defect in the book back in syd.Believe me everyone we are watching your actions.Just a gentle reminder,isnt it great we have all this technology at our hands these days .Most system have between 10-99 events stored.So if you think you can hide then i suggest you all think again
Stop Press-Another incident in NT on sunday.QF a/c arrives into an unmanned base with PA and interphone problems,what do they do,the answer is fly the a/c home like good little sheep then put the defect in the book back in syd.Believe me everyone we are watching your actions.Just a gentle reminder,isnt it great we have all this technology at our hands these days .Most system have between 10-99 events stored.So if you think you can hide then i suggest you all think again
