Spectacular landing shot of Dash 8
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The Ailerons appear to be in a Roll right position with a neutral rudder or possibly with a slight right deflection . Dash 8 300 Max Xwind on a Dry runway is 36 Kts and it is slower that a Jet so therefore has more drift. Anyway we all have bad days so can't be critical. Nice to see the boys have got the 300's body angle down below 6 deg.
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I recall a hairy landing into a pretty stiff cross wind on RWY 05 at YARM. After wiping the beads of sweat from my forehead, I wandered down to the terminal to grab something to eat.
As I was walking down, a Dash 8 came in and landed left mains first THEN NOSE WHEEL, then right mains...
As I was walking down, a Dash 8 came in and landed left mains first THEN NOSE WHEEL, then right mains...
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Discussing the position of control surfaces and whether the technique of an aircraft doing a frikken crosswind landing is best represented in the photo with regard to the actual conditions on the day is rather VERY VERY SAD.......
you know the thing about life, and getting one and all that..... yeah, good advice.
you know the thing about life, and getting one and all that..... yeah, good advice.
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Like I said, try the technique in a low wing jet, and see the look of abject terror on the face of the captain (assuming that el capitan is not YOU!). If you want to drag wingtips and pods through the dust and tarmac, go right ahead! And then have your arse thoroughly kicked into the stratosphere.
It's all a matter of technique and timing in a low wing airliner. Crab all the way, then kick straight at the VERY last second. Then hold aileron into wind etc after touchdown. Not that hard, and in fact, I do it in light aircraft! I was taught that way from day one way back when, and have NEVER used the wing low during approach and landing technique - NEVER, even flying high wing higher performance aircraft!
To each his own. Sure, the technique is harder than the wing down technique, but not a darned lot in it really.
It's all a matter of technique and timing in a low wing airliner. Crab all the way, then kick straight at the VERY last second. Then hold aileron into wind etc after touchdown. Not that hard, and in fact, I do it in light aircraft! I was taught that way from day one way back when, and have NEVER used the wing low during approach and landing technique - NEVER, even flying high wing higher performance aircraft!
To each his own. Sure, the technique is harder than the wing down technique, but not a darned lot in it really.
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Does anyone understand how a camera works?
Anything moving when the shutter opens will be captured as it is at that precise time.
During cross wind landings where the wind is gusting we all are surely aware that we are continually adjusting control inputs to stay on centerline while we make the transition from flying machine to driving machine.
The photo does not in any way represent what imputs were being given to the control surfaces other than where they were when the camera shutter opened. The time frame would most likely to have been something in the vacinity of 1/100 of a second, thus the rudder for example could have been in full deflection from one side to the other at maximum rate and you would not know.
Romeo Tango Alpha - on close inspection the photo appears to be a Dash8 and not a low wing podded jet so whats the problem?
Every aircraft has its own considerations and yours is not one for the Dash8 and im sure that the crew would recognise this if they were in a 737 for example.
Ibex - you are spot on... time for some people to get a life
Anything moving when the shutter opens will be captured as it is at that precise time.
During cross wind landings where the wind is gusting we all are surely aware that we are continually adjusting control inputs to stay on centerline while we make the transition from flying machine to driving machine.
The photo does not in any way represent what imputs were being given to the control surfaces other than where they were when the camera shutter opened. The time frame would most likely to have been something in the vacinity of 1/100 of a second, thus the rudder for example could have been in full deflection from one side to the other at maximum rate and you would not know.
Romeo Tango Alpha - on close inspection the photo appears to be a Dash8 and not a low wing podded jet so whats the problem?
Every aircraft has its own considerations and yours is not one for the Dash8 and im sure that the crew would recognise this if they were in a 737 for example.
Ibex - you are spot on... time for some people to get a life
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What a blardy song and dance about nothing!!
They landed the airplane using a technique appropriate to their aircraft type. End of story.
Sheeez, no wonder alot of the outsiders that wander on to this forum think we have our heads up our collective arses.
I concur with Ibex and cold.....get out there people
They landed the airplane using a technique appropriate to their aircraft type. End of story.
Sheeez, no wonder alot of the outsiders that wander on to this forum think we have our heads up our collective arses.
I concur with Ibex and cold.....get out there people
anyone (probably means most) know what the max acceptable wing down in one of our podded friends is?
Romeo Tango Alpha.. In the lighter stuff, using that technique, how many time have you used that method (in a stuff crosswind) and landed on the centerline without the wheel saying "ggggaaarrrrggghhhh forwards not sidewards!!!... wheels roll FORWARD!"1
haha (now before anyone has a #$%^ about that one its just taking the jist out of him alright ! ) FFFFFAAAAAAARRRR
Romeo Tango Alpha.. In the lighter stuff, using that technique, how many time have you used that method (in a stuff crosswind) and landed on the centerline without the wheel saying "ggggaaarrrrggghhhh forwards not sidewards!!!... wheels roll FORWARD!"1
haha (now before anyone has a #$%^ about that one its just taking the jist out of him alright ! ) FFFFFAAAAAAARRRR
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Romeo Tango Alpha.. In the lighter stuff, using that technique, how many time have you used that method (in a stuff crosswind) and landed on the centerline without the wheel saying "ggggaaarrrrggghhhh forwards not sidewards!!!... wheels roll FORWARD!"1 haha (now before anyone has a #$%^ about that one its just taking the jist out of him alright ! ) FFFFFAAAAAAARRRR
Now, BOTH ways are perfectly legitimate crosswind techniques. Like I said, personal choice, and wing low is NOT the technique I use.
