We're Low Cost, But High Standard: Jetstar.
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We're Low Cost, But High Standard: Jetstar.
Saturday, 8th May 2004.
We're low cost, but high standard: Jetstar
Airline ready for Coast take-off
The team behind new low-fare airline Jetstar , which will start flights from the Sunshine Coast on May 25 , yesterday assured Coast tourism representatives that low costs could still mean lofty standards.
Senior Jetstar management met with representatives from tourism groups, councils, resorts and tourist attractions to "knock misinformation about Jetstar on the head''.
Jetstar head of Commercial, Bruce Buchanan, said a common misconception that Jetstar had poor quality meals, seats and service was not true.
But the operation would have several major differences to other airlines.
For example, passenger check-in would close 30 minutes before departure so the aircraft could leave on time, which would minimise delay-related costs for the airline.
Passengers would not have an allocated seat on the plane but would board in the order they checked in.
Jetstar will run two flights a day from Sydney and one from Melbourne from May 25, and was considering direct flights to Cairns, Canberra and Adelaide.
Mr Buchanan said a change in travel patterns, such as flying for long weekends instead of longer holidays, or buying a holiday house far from home, was stimulating the market in places like the Coast.
"The demand has been amazing, our strongest markets have been some of the ones out of the Sunshine Coast,'' he said.
Jetstar will be holding a competition, with a trip to Sydney as a prize, at the Alex Skate Park from midday today to find the Coast's best star-jumper.
Cabin crew will also demonstrate seats from an Airbus A320 , to replace the Boeing 717s in July , and the menu selection.
We're low cost, but high standard: Jetstar
Airline ready for Coast take-off
The team behind new low-fare airline Jetstar , which will start flights from the Sunshine Coast on May 25 , yesterday assured Coast tourism representatives that low costs could still mean lofty standards.
Senior Jetstar management met with representatives from tourism groups, councils, resorts and tourist attractions to "knock misinformation about Jetstar on the head''.
Jetstar head of Commercial, Bruce Buchanan, said a common misconception that Jetstar had poor quality meals, seats and service was not true.
But the operation would have several major differences to other airlines.
For example, passenger check-in would close 30 minutes before departure so the aircraft could leave on time, which would minimise delay-related costs for the airline.
Passengers would not have an allocated seat on the plane but would board in the order they checked in.
Jetstar will run two flights a day from Sydney and one from Melbourne from May 25, and was considering direct flights to Cairns, Canberra and Adelaide.
Mr Buchanan said a change in travel patterns, such as flying for long weekends instead of longer holidays, or buying a holiday house far from home, was stimulating the market in places like the Coast.
"The demand has been amazing, our strongest markets have been some of the ones out of the Sunshine Coast,'' he said.
Jetstar will be holding a competition, with a trip to Sydney as a prize, at the Alex Skate Park from midday today to find the Coast's best star-jumper.
Cabin crew will also demonstrate seats from an Airbus A320 , to replace the Boeing 717s in July , and the menu selection.
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Passengers would not have an allocated seat on the plane but would board in the order they checked in.
I can see a bottleneck effect when the pax start running down the airbridges in order to get into the plane first and get 'their seat'.Good luck to the cabin crews.
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And the pax probably will too. 
PSA in the US used to do this, we were flying from Seattle down to LA back in the 1980s, supposed to be on United, but they couldn't get into Seattle due weather, so we were transfered to PSA.
The pax DID literally run to get aboard.
Then before takeoff they handed everyone a cardboard box each, and that was your catering for the flight.
Sounds like Jetstar may be copying them.
PSA in the US used to do this, we were flying from Seattle down to LA back in the 1980s, supposed to be on United, but they couldn't get into Seattle due weather, so we were transfered to PSA.
The pax DID literally run to get aboard.
Then before takeoff they handed everyone a cardboard box each, and that was your catering for the flight.
Sounds like Jetstar may be copying them.
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That's a pity, the cardboard box, or rather its contents, were great.
I really cannot see JetStar being very popular with the Australian public.
I really cannot see JetStar being very popular with the Australian public.
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The seats are 30 inch, not 29. Not that one inch is a total lot! hhaha
I think Jetstar will be more popular than virgin, and from what ive heard from people, family, friends, ppl i dont even know say they wont fly virgin again, however i havent flown virgin so i dont know the exact reason why they wont fly them again.
I also know of a few virgin staff who have moved across to Jetstar for various reasons, one i noted was it was an unprofessinal airline... ?? As i say i dont know! Never flown or worked with them.
I dont agree with you lame, when you say it wont be as popular with the australian public. I think JQ will boom over Virgin, and lets hope theres some good competition on the way.
Until then we can only wait and watch!!
GO JQ!!!!
I think Jetstar will be more popular than virgin, and from what ive heard from people, family, friends, ppl i dont even know say they wont fly virgin again, however i havent flown virgin so i dont know the exact reason why they wont fly them again.
I also know of a few virgin staff who have moved across to Jetstar for various reasons, one i noted was it was an unprofessinal airline... ?? As i say i dont know! Never flown or worked with them.
I dont agree with you lame, when you say it wont be as popular with the australian public. I think JQ will boom over Virgin, and lets hope theres some good competition on the way.
Until then we can only wait and watch!!
GO JQ!!!!
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I am sad that you disagree with me. 
It sounds like you may have some connection with JetStar, yes.
I on the other hand, have no connection at all to Virgin Blue, Qantas or JetStar, and never have.
I personally do not like some of the things that happen at Virgin Blue, however I have heard mainly only good things about them, including from my "Other Half" of 35 years, who recently went down to Melbourne on Qantas and back on Virgin Blue. She has flown very extensively all over the World, and was very impressed with Virgin Blue, certainly more than Qantas.
I just honestly believe pax will not take kindly to JetStar, for a variety of reasons, including the leg room, catering and operating out of different Airports.
It sounds like you may have some connection with JetStar, yes.
I on the other hand, have no connection at all to Virgin Blue, Qantas or JetStar, and never have.
I personally do not like some of the things that happen at Virgin Blue, however I have heard mainly only good things about them, including from my "Other Half" of 35 years, who recently went down to Melbourne on Qantas and back on Virgin Blue. She has flown very extensively all over the World, and was very impressed with Virgin Blue, certainly more than Qantas.
I just honestly believe pax will not take kindly to JetStar, for a variety of reasons, including the leg room, catering and operating out of different Airports.
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hey lame!!!
not take offense!! haha! just in the spirit of conversation, dont take it personally!
you sound like a nice guy, just gave my though on things, hehe. Im sure virgin is a good company, just some things ive heard, as they say dont knock it till ya tried it
take care man!!
not take offense!! haha! just in the spirit of conversation, dont take it personally!
you sound like a nice guy, just gave my though on things, hehe. Im sure virgin is a good company, just some things ive heard, as they say dont knock it till ya tried it
take care man!!
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How long after the launch will it be, before the boarding announcement includes a request for "customers" to not throw their carry on into the seats?
BTDT!
BTDT!
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In Europe easyJet give you a number based on when you checked in. Mind you, there's only 2 check in desks open for your flight so that is easy to organise. Other check ins are used for other flights.
Check in now closes 40 minutes prior to departure for both Ryanair and easyJet.
After you pass through security you then go to the departure gate. Here you're called to board (ie wait in another queue) in order. First 30. Second 31-60 and then the remainder. At Luton (and many others, not Paris though) you then stand in your appropriate queue. Your number is checked, again, and when ok, you board the aircraft via the front or rear steps. The cluey folk go to the rear and head for the over wing emergency seats because there is more room.
If you want food or drink you have to buy it.
bmibaby is more similar to Virgin Blue. You get allocated seats. no inflight entertainment though.
For a real scrum you fly with Ryanair. No allocated seating and it doesn't matter when you check in. Good luck. There's no monthly in flight magazine, only a battered catalogue for drinks/food/"gifts".
In fact, they are talking about removing the seat pockets and putting the safety hand out on the back of the seat. Unlike easyJet, Ryanair fly from secondary airports (exceptions are London Stansted and Dublin). This can mean a lengthy train/bus/taxi journey to your intended destination. (This can be a trap for folks from Dunnunda.)
Average flight in Europe is 1-11/2 hours with the odd one being longer than 2 hours. The loco guys are hitting the full service short haul guys and the charter guys pretty hard. The hardest hit though is pilot conditions. Every one is now jumping on the pay for the rating schemes if you want a job.
Check in now closes 40 minutes prior to departure for both Ryanair and easyJet.
After you pass through security you then go to the departure gate. Here you're called to board (ie wait in another queue) in order. First 30. Second 31-60 and then the remainder. At Luton (and many others, not Paris though) you then stand in your appropriate queue. Your number is checked, again, and when ok, you board the aircraft via the front or rear steps. The cluey folk go to the rear and head for the over wing emergency seats because there is more room.
If you want food or drink you have to buy it.
bmibaby is more similar to Virgin Blue. You get allocated seats. no inflight entertainment though.
For a real scrum you fly with Ryanair. No allocated seating and it doesn't matter when you check in. Good luck. There's no monthly in flight magazine, only a battered catalogue for drinks/food/"gifts".
In fact, they are talking about removing the seat pockets and putting the safety hand out on the back of the seat. Unlike easyJet, Ryanair fly from secondary airports (exceptions are London Stansted and Dublin). This can mean a lengthy train/bus/taxi journey to your intended destination. (This can be a trap for folks from Dunnunda.)
Average flight in Europe is 1-11/2 hours with the odd one being longer than 2 hours. The loco guys are hitting the full service short haul guys and the charter guys pretty hard. The hardest hit though is pilot conditions. Every one is now jumping on the pay for the rating schemes if you want a job.
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redsnail - surely you meant the exception was London Gatwick? London Stansted is well and truly out in the sticks and a nice expensive train ride from Liverpool Street to get there- don't see no BA or BMI flying there. I also believe that Ryanair do give out boarding numbers to passengers at Stansted i.e. board the aircraft in 2 tranches??
In any event, all the talk about people rushing for seats on Jetstar..don't really see it happening if what I have observed with the budget airlines in the UK is anything to go by.
In any event, all the talk about people rushing for seats on Jetstar..don't really see it happening if what I have observed with the budget airlines in the UK is anything to go by.
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Stansted isn't too bad if you're already north of London. ie near the M11. Gatwick would be better for those south of London. 
ie near the M23.
I haven't used Ryanair since I left my previous employer. I can't remember the seating details too clearly but I know it isn't as "organised" as easyJet's. I am certainly not knocking them at all.
I was just simply trying to make a comparison with what folks in Oz may be used to with what they are about to receive. If you're used to catching a VB or QF jet at Tullamarine, then going to Avalon is perhaps, a bit different. The folks in the UK are used to travelling from different airports such as Prestwick, instead of Glasgow. London Luton/Stansted/Gatwick instead of Heathrow. Blackpool instead of Liverpool or even Manchester. Sometimes, the secondary airports are more useful but if you're not expecting it or can't speak the language it can be a pain.
If you're used to a seat allocation then no seat allocation will take a little while to adjust. It's not impossible of course. So far, I haven't seen too much of a bun fight regarding the seats.
ie near the M23.I haven't used Ryanair since I left my previous employer. I can't remember the seating details too clearly but I know it isn't as "organised" as easyJet's. I am certainly not knocking them at all.
I was just simply trying to make a comparison with what folks in Oz may be used to with what they are about to receive. If you're used to catching a VB or QF jet at Tullamarine, then going to Avalon is perhaps, a bit different. The folks in the UK are used to travelling from different airports such as Prestwick, instead of Glasgow. London Luton/Stansted/Gatwick instead of Heathrow. Blackpool instead of Liverpool or even Manchester. Sometimes, the secondary airports are more useful but if you're not expecting it or can't speak the language it can be a pain.
If you're used to a seat allocation then no seat allocation will take a little while to adjust. It's not impossible of course. So far, I haven't seen too much of a bun fight regarding the seats.
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As I said before, I think the Airports that JetStar are planning to use will put people off.
Imagine people who are used to Tullamarine, finding themselves out at Avalon.
I have also heard a "rumour" from several different people, that if you are travelling from say Brisbane to Melbourne with Qantas, under certain circumstances you may be bumped onto JetStar, IF this is true that would really put people off Qantas as well as JetStar.
Imagine people who are used to Tullamarine, finding themselves out at Avalon.
I have also heard a "rumour" from several different people, that if you are travelling from say Brisbane to Melbourne with Qantas, under certain circumstances you may be bumped onto JetStar, IF this is true that would really put people off Qantas as well as JetStar.
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Oh such rumours guys and gals!
I've flown virgin and thought they were fine - easy to book, courteous staff and what was really important to me on time departure and arrival! Seat pitch was OK and didnt buy food.
The Jet* in flight food, which you buy if you want - just like virgin, was fresh and tasty ( i was at a trial catering/boarding demo).
I sat in a 717 (converted to 125 pax seats) and had equal legroom to what I had in economy on QF 747-400.
The unallocated seating (but you get a sequence no. on check in) is copied from overseas operators such as JetBlue (USA) and as mentioned above, Easyjet. Jet* will invite first 50, then next 50 etc to board. It's a good motivator for pax to line up at the gate just like opening time at the footy!!
All this aside, the majoity will be drive by price of the ticket and schedule. The winner is..... the travelling public be it Jet*, QF or Virg!
I've flown virgin and thought they were fine - easy to book, courteous staff and what was really important to me on time departure and arrival! Seat pitch was OK and didnt buy food.
The Jet* in flight food, which you buy if you want - just like virgin, was fresh and tasty ( i was at a trial catering/boarding demo).
I sat in a 717 (converted to 125 pax seats) and had equal legroom to what I had in economy on QF 747-400.
The unallocated seating (but you get a sequence no. on check in) is copied from overseas operators such as JetBlue (USA) and as mentioned above, Easyjet. Jet* will invite first 50, then next 50 etc to board. It's a good motivator for pax to line up at the gate just like opening time at the footy!!
All this aside, the majoity will be drive by price of the ticket and schedule. The winner is..... the travelling public be it Jet*, QF or Virg!
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As I said in another thread...
Too many people are making much ado about nothing with free seating. It's been going on around the world from the 1970's as I know of. It encourages people to get on board quicker and you get the chance to sit next to a good looker.
There is still pre-boarding for the elderly and people with kids or any other handicap. Don't worry about it.
Too many people are making much ado about nothing with free seating. It's been going on around the world from the 1970's as I know of. It encourages people to get on board quicker and you get the chance to sit next to a good looker.
There is still pre-boarding for the elderly and people with kids or any other handicap. Don't worry about it.
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"were low paid, no moral: jetstar"
what did we get a pay rise?? "were low paid" .......
???????? And you know that we hav no morals how? i dont even know you...
CaptainJosh,
You may have smiled, you may have been joshing, but look in the mirror before you call some one a richard cranium! W
what did we get a pay rise?? "were low paid" .......
???????? And you know that we hav no morals how? i dont even know you...
CaptainJosh,
You may have smiled, you may have been joshing, but look in the mirror before you call some one a richard cranium!
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