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caucatc 17th November 2009 12:16

Here is a question about the speed restriction ,why limited the aircraft maintain 250KTs or less below FL100 ? Somebody told me that will reduce the damage of bird strike to minimum if it happens ,is that true ?

jaker 19th November 2009 13:14

Bluebird6 & DFC, thanks for the clarifications.


Here is a question about the speed restriction ,why limited the aircraft maintain 250KTs or less below FL100 ? Somebody told me that will reduce the damage of bird strike to minimum if it happens ,is that true ?
I would think 250kts is the limit simply because that gives more time to "see and avoid", not because it might reduce bird strike damage.

tarnish26 19th November 2009 14:17


why limited the aircraft maintain 250KTs or less below FL100 ?
To give the little Indians out there half a chance to avoid you!! See and be seen!

DFC 21st November 2009 10:08


To give the little Indians out there half a chance to avoid you!! See and be seen!
It is also for you to both have time to see them and be able to avoid them. Remember you are equally responsible with every other pilot for avoiding collisions. See if you can find a get-out in the "General Rules for avoiding collisions" when talking about powered aircraft not towing anything based on aircraft type, operation, airspace, met conditions or time of day / night.

There are zero exceptions to the "thou shalt not collide" rule. :ok:

Therefore in airspace where ATC are not separating two aircraft the rules of the air apply and one wil have right of way while the other shall avoid it. Just because ATC may have the one required to avoid on a heading does not change the law.

Pontius's Copilot 7th December 2009 08:02

I'll add this one to the list of speed constraints / limits mentioned so far.

UK AIP GEN 1-7-52 (Differences from ICAO) ...

Missed Approach Segment
Turn Parameters - IAS
Unless otherwise specified, all missed approach turns are limited to 185 kt IAS maximum.


Now, does anyone have the authority to waive that limit?


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