How can he fill the gap when he didn't pass the checks and works at a small airfield/office work? :P
I have heard of cases where people have been given second chances at another unit and sometimes been dragged along in training for quite a long time until ultimately leaving (or miraculously passing), but no such thing as you mention.

There are 150+ trainees at the Academy right now, none of them military (the last small military course just left).
So, where are all those uniformed gap-fillers supposed to save us?

Regards,

Robert

well, you're less than 2 years in the ops room, right? wait for another 3, you'll see....


right next to you?

Well, I'll believe it when I see it. :E

All those in DFS right now (including that last course) were planned in before this current "OMG we have too few controllers" "surprise".
So if they really tried to fill the gaps now, there would be new military courses.
I'm not saying they won't do that if it was possible. It isn't however. The military has its own gaps to fill, and is not sending any more.

Regards,

Robert

the FI-ad was published July/August 2008.....


70% fail in the DFS-academy, min. 10% more in OJT - hard to get s.o. to pull out the uniform. and those who left have to "problems" stated above......

70% fail in the academy? Yikes...I feel even better now.

is related to the mil's in the academy....

The last military course started very early 2008.
And seeing how "quick" organizations like the DFS and Bundeswehr are, the actual planning of that course was done even much earlier than that.

I'm really not sure where you get your information from.
At the Academy it has been less than a quarter for the last three military courses (that covers three years).
OJT is a different matter (the number is actually higher than 10%), but that's similar for civilian trainees.

Regards,

Robert

hahaha, mr. former navy officer.... remember a course in 2006 (seems to be within these 3 years), don't know the number right now, where 50% of the camouflaged didn't made it in the sim (of the academy).... the plight continued in the sim and in live traffic.
so, just to abandon the field, you're much more "deeper" in there :}

I think we start to loosing initial thread:}

Guys, what are the Minimum hours required for Unit endorsement at DFS/ and UAE for APS/RAD? And how long it takes in months time? ;)
If u like,u can PM.

Cheers,Ron.

DFS.... DFS ......i have informed u guys what to expect but..... burn baby now burn
Germans r the best CHEATERS ....i dont know better

Well this has been a very interesting read. Here I am with my own little thread over yonder how-do-i-get-europe looking to find a good way for an experienced controller to find work on the other side of the world and I find unhappiness and confusion. Sounds like everywhere.:suspect:

Nevertheless, I will not be deterred and make best of what is put before me.

Who is worth contacting directly to start chatting about possibilities in France, Germany, Switzerland etc?

If you want to start a thread comparing various international options, then it would probably be well received. This thread is about DFS, and I would be interested to hear from people who made the decision to go ahead with them.

Otherwise, leave the bs out Stick to stuff you know about.