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tsorin16 14th December 2009 13:43

@Heartbeats
Yes, read my reply to ATCO EHBK on page 12.

You can also read the entire thread. You'll find bits and pieces that can help you. Good luck :ok:

@BananaJoe
Sorry, I can't help you.
I only recieved a letter in which they said I passed. I didn't bother to ask for the scores since it didn't interest me.

xnnfm 14th December 2009 15:16

Hello everyone, I'm an applicant who is waiting a date for phase 1.

Does anybody knows something about "Coordinate System Test"? (the gridlined test where you have to match correct heading, orientation or distances among planes and waypoins)
For exaple: How much the gridline size is? 6, 7, 8, 10 or maybe 20NM?
Are planes and waypoints visible or invisible?


And what about Learning and Applying Rules?
How many rules are active at same time?


look forward to a reply soon! :D

Applemos 17th December 2009 11:42

Like you, Xnnfm, I'm waiting for a date to phase 1. I haven't received an ID/password yet so I still have to send them the school leaving certificate and eye test. I suppose I'm not ready to rock within a month. :{

Chucheria 17th December 2009 13:45

I've been invited to phase one on January 26th, it's my birthday!:ugh: Anyway, I've been reading the thread and I hope to remember tips you gave (thanks for sharing:)), althought I have to keep practising some parts...

Well, see you January!

xnnfm 17th December 2009 18:15

Chucheria, we'll see each other in Maastricht!

FoxtrotCharlie7 18th December 2009 17:25

Hello to everybody. I read all the replies too :O I applied for UACC in Eurocontrol, sent my diplomas last week, but now I'm waiting anxiously for a reply. Some people told me, and as I've read, that now I need to be patient. The question is: do they take long until they ask you for the optician exam ? Or do they ask you to take it ONLY if they are interested in you ? If anybody knows or has an idea, reply please.
Thanks in advance
Cheers !

davidgkovacs 23rd December 2009 21:03

Hello,

I'm new on the forum but I've been reading it for a while. I'm invited for phase 1 on the 26th of January. Is there anybody else from Hungary who's invited on the same date?

... Merry Christmas for everyone!

xnnfm 11th January 2010 08:45

hello?! Is anybody there??

davidgkovacs 11th January 2010 10:25

I'm here... we could speak somehow..

piqla 11th January 2010 14:23

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Hajrá, én drukkolok :]

sgt_raven 12th January 2010 13:22

interview
 
Hey guys, I have been invited to Maastricht for interview this month, so if anyone has some tips or advice, you are more than welcome.
Thanks in advance!

davidgkovacs 14th January 2010 14:48

Hey BJoe...

Why isn't she on the forum? Aren't YOU invited?

There should be 5-6 fixes as far as I heard.

FoxtrotCharlie7 15th January 2010 08:48

Hello to everyone again. I see spanish people here too... que bien ! I received an email before Christmas saying they would contact me for a date to attend phase 1... the question is, how long will I have to wait? I'm really looking forward to going there, but I'm also really nervous. I'm quite worried for the FEAST, because they seem to be quite difficult. Just a final question, does anyone been to the feast and also been on IVAO (International Virtual Aviation Organisation)? Is that helpful?
Hope to see an answer !
Cheers !

Erikk 15th January 2010 11:34

Hi al!

Anyone else going to visit the phase 2 tests next Monday (18th of January)?
Since this is my second (and last) attempt I wonder if the tests have changed since 2 years ago…?


Good luck to everyone who is trying to become ATC'er @ Eurocontrol :ok:



Regards!
Erik

xnnfm 15th January 2010 12:56

Hello everyone.
They invited me for the phase 1 on january 26th.
I'm pretty worried about this test (obviously it will be very hard..)


To answer to FoxtrotCharlie, I'm in IVAO too, but it doesn't help so much because this test is completely different.

You can train yourself on some ATC simulator, but I'm not able to suggest you one..

I will be in Maastricht on January 25th, in the afternoon. I will be pleased to meet you.


ps: anyone from Italy?

FoxtrotCharlie7 15th January 2010 15:22

Hello xnnfm... good to hear an IVAO teammate. I was only wondering if it maybe was of some help... whatever. I would like to go on January, but they haven't told me a DATE yet.
See you, and GOOD LUCK !

oddbob 16th January 2010 00:45

I have a question.

How much emphasis do they (Eurocontrol) put on an applicant's english skills? I don't mean to be rude or in any way offensive, but a vast majority of the people writing in this forum (and other forums as well for that matter) seem to have questionable skills in english - and still seem to pass the tests well enough to earn a trainee spot at Eurocontrol.

Is there in fact an equal amount of trainees from all over Europe or is there a clear over-representation of trainees from english-speaking countries (England, Ireland, etc.)?

Good luck and a big kick in the butt to you guys heading over for the screenings!

FoxtrotCharlie7 16th January 2010 13:21

Hello to everyone!
To Oddbob: I think that english is very important and a MUST to become an ATC. Although this, I think that it doesn't matter if you make mistakes during your speech. I think that they want to test your expression, if it's understandable, and how well do you develop in an english environment. I know people from Spain who arrived until the interview, and they didn't have BRITISH-AMERICAN english pronunciation, and they passed phase 2. This is only what I think. I'm waiting for a date to attend PHASE 1, and there I'll see what it's needed, so this is only my opinion. Maybe a person who went to EUROCONTROL or other ATC's organisations/service providers could tell you the "real truth". Anyway, good luck if you go there :).
Cheers

GlobalJourney 16th January 2010 20:13

Hi guys and girls,

BananaJoe/davidgkovac: You can expect more than 5 or 6 fixes, although it is a while since I did it I seem to remember it being about 9. It doesn't really make much difference though. Don't forget, the point of the SDM test is not to see how good a controller you are, the type of conflict spotting you are doign etc has no similarity to anything you will ever do again in training, what the SDM is about is testing how you LEARN. You are given a long period of time, 90 minutes, with a structured training and learning phase to teach you everything you need to know about the SDM test. What is is looking at is your ability to sit down and self-learn from a set of instructions and rules and then apply what you have learnt.

FC7: IVAO doesn't help in any way shape or form I'm afraid, certainly not with FEAST and almost certainly not with the rest of the training. My personal advice, is don't even mention it.

Erikk: Nope the FEAST has not changed at all in at least 6 years. The selection process as whole is quicker now because it is done over less visits to MUAC.

oddbob: I can't really comment on how tough they are on english skills, but it is checked at a couple of stages. There is an English listening test in the FEAST which probably doesn't remove too many people. Then comes the stage 2 group skills and personal presentation day and finally the stage 3 interview and over these last two phases they are obviously going to get a pretty good idea of what level your English is at. Finally, if you are selected for training then after 9 months, just before your licence issue there is a multi-part english listening and speaking test to check that students have the required ICAO Level 4 English. As for the spread of students, well there are applicants from all over Europe, but it is probably fair to say there are significantly more from Belgium/NL due to geography and more people knowing about Eurocontrol. The rest tend to come from Germany/Spain/Sweden etc. As for there being an over-representation of UK students, this couldn't be further from the truth (5 Brits in the 70 or so students over the last couple of years).

Lastly, good luck to everyone coming for Stage 1 this month!

xnnfm 17th January 2010 10:04

Thank you GlobalJourney

Enkel_Leskaj 17th January 2010 14:50

HEY!!!
 
First thanks for all the post cause they've been really helpful.
I was wondering if anyone could please fill me up with some info about phase testing one, cause i've been invited in the end of February. Thank's :)

davidgkovacs 18th January 2010 07:36

Hey Global Journey,

Thanks for the great post, it's very useful!

Hey you all,

We have one week left, so get in shape:D See you in Maastricht!

FoxtrotCharlie7 18th January 2010 08:32

Hello to everyone!
TO BJ: thank you for the reply. It's quite useful :D. IVAO --> Will do, not even mention it :)
Cheers

xnnfm 18th January 2010 13:12

Almost a week left folks... keep cool!

Erikk 19th January 2010 08:18

Hi al!

Yesterday visited Eurocontrol for the phase 2 tests, I waited 2 years for this day because at my previous attempt I failed at this stage.
Unfortunally we had to wait till today to hear the results but I made it to the interview! So now preparing for it!

What I want to say to al the people who are going to give it a try;
after discussing the flightplan I was convinsed that I made the same (stupid) mistakes like 2 years ago and would not pas... although I did not give up, and see the result. So although you have the feeling you screwed up keep going and try to make the best out of it!!

A question for people who already had the interview, can you give some details about what kind of this questions they will fire? How long do you have to wait to hear the results?

Good luck everybody!

xnnfm 19th January 2010 08:23

That would be very useful.

Keep cool erikk

FoxtrotCharlie7 19th January 2010 11:02

Hey Erikk. Quite useful. I sent you a PM.
Cheers

davidgkovacs 19th January 2010 12:01

Hey FC7!

Are you coming on the 26th as well?

subber 19th January 2010 12:10

Had my interview today, really hoping it went well! Will be amazingly hard to wait until Monday to find out the results..

FoxtrotCharlie7 19th January 2010 13:47

HEY !
to Subber: hope everything's allright for you.
to DavidgKovacs: nope, I'm not coming yet. I'm still waiting for the "date to attend to phase 1 here in Maastricht". xD
Good luck to all going at the end of January!!!!!!!
Cheers !

xnnfm 19th January 2010 18:20

Hey subber!

how the interview was? I mean, wich question did they asked you? Can you tell something to us? :D thank you!

the_one_eu 19th January 2010 20:38

how long
 
hello to everybody!! i'm new on this forum. i've posted here because i have a problem. pls tell me how long does it takes to receive an answer from eurocontrol? i sent them my application at the end of november and till now i have not receive any answer from them and i'm a little worried.
thanks

xnnfm 20th January 2010 07:41

I sended my application in November like you, an they answered me in a couple of days. Try to contact them by email.

Just for curiosity, how old are you?


cheers

FoxtrotCharlie7 20th January 2010 09:59

Hello to all !
to the-one-eu: I sent my application in December, and in 2 weeks I got my email in which it said "we have now received you application and will be in contact for a date to attend phase 1", or something similar. If you have done the whole application, filled the "questionnaire" (the one they give you to fill following a link), sent your diplomas / qualifications, the optical exam, and you HAVE NOT received any response from HR, contact them. I think the number is available in the website, and I'm sure they'll be glad to pick up the phone. Maybe there was a problem with your email, or maybe they had a problem (I don't think they would have, but who knows...).
Call or write again, just as an advice. Post something here if there is any news.

to subber: hey, just asking the same as xnnfm, HOW was the interview?
Cheers !

the_one_eu 20th January 2010 20:37

i have received they're answer the they will analyze my application in 2 december and until now i didn't receive no mail from them.
in 4 january i sent them a mail to ask them why does it takes so much time, but i have received the same mail that they will analyze my application wich i think is automatically sent

Moira 21st January 2010 10:47

Ring them.

Mail just doesn't work for this kind of questions.

Erikk 21st January 2010 12:15

Just came back from the interview, damn it was hard. Especialy the 2 exercises I've got. For the rest, I did my homework so it was easy to answer their questions about EC. I will get the results tomorrow, keeping fingers crossed.....

sgt_raven 21st January 2010 13:48

pm
 
Erikk check your pm

Erikk 21st January 2010 14:44

Because of the bunch of PM's I received about the interview here some information about their questions. You should have some knowledge about Eurocontrol in general, MUAC and the tasks of an ATC'er. Questions you can expect are:
- Tel something about Eurocontrol
- What are the tasks of an ATC'er (seperation details!)
- What is FAB about? / What is SES about?
- Do you know some airplanes...
- What do they work on in Hungary?

Of course you get lots of questions about your personal life, your motivation etc. etc.

Because of the fact that my younger brother is a ATC student for 2 years now at Eurocontrol they asked me some details about the work, the time in Luxembourgh etc.. I think you would not have to know this if you have only some basic knowledge about ATC.

At the end you get some exercises, I had some problems at that point, for example, you need to calculate the distance covered if a plan takes of, flyies 3 circles and turns back to the runway. I had no idea how to calculate the distance of a circle at al! I'm 25 a.t.m. maybe I did those exercises when I was 17 but I forgot....

They made clear that the final result is based on the total selection proces (phase 1, 2 + interview). So in that case, despite I messed up at the exercis, I still have a little hope on a possitive result. Tomorrow morning at 9.00 o'clock I will know more.

FoxtrotCharlie7 21st January 2010 16:27

Hello Erikk. Thanks for the information. It's very useful. I hope you get a positive "qualification" and get to the TRAINING ! One more thing: do they ask you those MATHS questions? Or are there more things like Multiplication, sums???
Cheers


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