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Trotsky 14th October 2008 22:00

You can try this one:


[email protected]


He may be able to help your CV end up in the right hands:)

Best wishes,
Trotsky.

iraatc777 15th October 2008 06:36

Thanks a lot:}

Papa1 22nd October 2008 10:20

Accomodation in Dubai
 
It is a great lifestyle in Dubai having recently moved here but the big sting in the tail is housing. Totally agree that it is not selfish or arrogant to expect to live in a modest 3 or 4 bed villa with a bit of garden - so the rent allowance is a con. After deducting council tax (municipality charge at 5% of rent), electricity & water costs (very high) how can you afford to pay upto 300K pa rent for a decent gaff when the allowance is 210K - thats a hell of a lot of your 'tax free' salary.

You should be over here to make money and not be afraid to say it, after all thats why you leave your old job - change, new life etc - rent allowance should be 300K minimum!!!! C'mon cough up guys it's okay for those been sat here for 20 years on the up :*escalator........

TheFalcon 25th October 2008 18:35

You hit the nail on the head Papa1 and confirmed everything I said. No announcements yet and still the lucky ones to get any increase (if any) are the freshmen. We will get ours next year, now how's that for fairness!!

Guy D'ageradar 25th October 2008 21:48

TheFalcon, in all fairness, (and assuming that you are talking about accommodation allowances) I would be very surprised if it isn't the "Freshmen" who are paying, by far, the highest rates of rent - hence (maybe) the misbalance.

I fully understand why you (and, in fact, I) believe that all should receive the same rate but I can also see why EM and co would prioritise in favour of those that actually need it to pay the rent and not for new toys, etc.

At the end of the day, the accommodation allowance is clearly woefully inadequate and last years increase will very quickly evaporate to make up for it's shortcomings, along with the rampant inflation, back-door taxes (sorry, fees! definitely not taxes) etc. :yuk:

Fox3snapshot 25th October 2008 22:35


At the end of the day, the accommodation allowance is clearly woefully inadequate....
You have no idea my friend, come to Abu Dhabi, halve your allowance (and a little bit more!) and keep the same rental commitments and you are in our position. Pay rise a year or so ago still fell over 10,000 short per month on yours so spare a thought. :uhoh:

I would like to be the eternal optimist, but my family name dictates that what can go wrong will! :{

iraatc777 3rd November 2008 19:06

What`s amiss?:}.

BIRD2008 3rd November 2008 19:38

Serco vs. GCAA
 
Hi
Could anybody tell me the difference of working for Serco and GCAA. I'm looking into applying for a job in Abu Dhabi ACC. GCAA is looking for controllers to work there with the salary 47.000 AED+medical+bonuses. Does anybody have any idea what could be included in the bonuses? Is there some standard package, housing and etc.?

Thanks a lot
Cheers

prowler 10th November 2008 12:20

Were supposed to have a meeting today with Mr.Big Cheese ........

Guess what......

Meeting CANCELLED........

Guess would have been pretty same'ol crap the other Teams got......:yuk:

Guy D'ageradar 11th November 2008 05:53

Hey Prowler, relax...........they're probably just waiting for the last couple of signatures to authorise the necessary 40% increase in the accommodation allowance!!:} Be coming any day now........................:suspect:

The Jolly Roger 11th November 2008 07:22

Here's a shot in the dark!!!!!!......

Any of you Dubai guys have an apartment you want to rent to an ole Abu Dhabi colleague!!! Or take over an old lease?? Lookin in Marina (ish).....

You guys are on a winner compared to us megre souls...100k per year SERCO give us...granted accomm is provided at greatly reduced rates, but hey, all's well that ends well!!! .....Anyone heard of figures...i'm tearin me hair out lookin at rental prices go up by the day.....some ok apartments in the marina for the 200k mark...but can't take the chance yet on 2 cheques not knowin what SERCO are goin to give us!!!



Another satisfied customer.......we should have him stuffed...

prowler 11th November 2008 07:57

To Mr.Guy D'ageradar;


Hey Prowler, relax...........they're probably just waiting for the last couple of signatures to authorise the necessary 40% increase in the accommodation allowance!!http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/badteeth.gif Be coming any day now........................http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/cwm13.gif
Do you REALLY KNOW where you're heading to? (as you say early next year)

Things have surely improved salarywise, last year, BUT if Management do not do something SERIOUSLY to keep up & reflect on Dubai's Inflation & ESPECIALLY Accomodation issues, by topping up our Accomodation Allowances, then we will be back to square one.....As WE WERE in the PAST!

SERCO are ALSO trying to get rid of 'Leases in their name', & many of us have been shafted by this! So my dear friend, INSH'ALLAH some things will really be sorted out & "your dreams of the 40% increase in Accomodation Allowance COME THROUGH!"

I am not being negative about things.. but just REALISTIC, & neither basing my facts on rumours, but through all the Crap our different Teams have been told in the Meetings with the Boss.....:yuk:

Good Luck My Friend!

Guy D'ageradar 11th November 2008 09:38

Mr. Prowler,

Don't worry, the glasses are definitely not rose tinted - I can dream though, can't I?

I've been following the rental market for a year or so now and have been wondering whether the lease would be "taken care of" by Serco or if I'd need to do it all myself. I guess that's also a way of making us pay the agent's fees and security deposits too!

I fully agree though that if the momentum that was built up thanks to last year's pay rise is not to be lost, some serious effort has to be made to ensure that all is not lost through inflation / rent increases. There's not much point making big changes to re-motivate the troops if everything that was improved is rapidly eroded by rampant inflation / greedy landlords.

Thanks for the updates and see you in January.......Insh'allah!:ok:

Scooby Don't 11th November 2008 10:29

FYI - if you have to pay an agency fee to secure a villa/flat, Serco will pay that. They obviously won't pay the security deposit as that's your money which you should get back (I know, UAE landlords...).

grizzled 12th November 2008 11:25

The Jolly Roger
 
To TJR:

Check your PMs

Grizz

big-blue-sky 20th November 2008 10:44

Does anyone have a point of contact/email address for Abu Dhabi ATC?
Thanks

prowler 22nd November 2008 17:10

Abu Dhabi it self has more than one contract......'CONNECTIONS'...

OMAA - Abu Dhabi Tower/Approach is ONE Contract - SERCO.

OMAE - Centre is ANOTHER Contract, which is further sub-divided between SERCO & GCAA.

Now ther's also GAL - Who are recruiting for other airports in the Vicinity...

BIRD2008 28th November 2008 23:33

CVs
 
Hi

I send my CV to GCAA few weeks ago. There has been no reply other than initial reply that they got the application. Does anybody know what is happening over there. Are they just taking their time going over all the CVs or what?
Is this maybe normal procedure with GCAA?
Could somebody maybe give me contact info for Serco in the UAE and the places around UAE if you have it.

Cheers

Number Last 3rd December 2008 07:46

Credit crunch hits Dubai
 
There have been a lot of reports in the media regarding the credit crunch impacting Dubai property development. What impact is it having for Joe Average in Dubai and are the exorbitant rents coming back in to check.

Hoping to come play over there next year and just trying to get the full picture.

The Jolly Roger 4th December 2008 09:07

Credit Crunch hits Dubai????? What??? No way!!!...sssshhhhhh....nobody is supposed to mutter those words.......

Unfortunately Joe Average will still be up the landlords :mad: for a while yet when it comes to rents.....there are still new, empty buildings in Dubai all boarded up until the time is right for the vultures to seize their prey......Its highly unlikely anything is goin to happen with the rents here over the short term....as long as they "slow bleed" a couple of apartments here and there, it will sill look as if the demand for aprtments is high when actually its quite the opposite!!!:suspect:

trailblazer 18th December 2008 17:56

Serco Contract
 
Apparently Serco has finally signed a contract with the GCAA. Has anybody heard anything, or will people be working on January 1st without any clue of what they're getting paid? :O

SINGAPURCANAC 21st December 2008 07:26

10 000 + EUR per month,:cool:
it seems that some ANSPs will face with problems:E

Number Last 21st December 2008 08:35

Hope I get the call up soon... Has there been any increase in the accommodation allowance?

Tuss 21st December 2008 12:35

cv
 
I have tried SERCO and I also just got the initial response from them, can u assist me with contact details for GCAA Please



Fox3snapshot 21st December 2008 14:17

"Cleared to Land"
"Cleared for Take Off"
"Cleared to Land"
"Cleared for Take Off"
"Cleared to Land"
"Cleared for Take Off"
"Cleared to Land"
"Cleared for Take Off"

Sorry just practicing.......cough sniffle, sorry just blew the dust off my CV. Now where was that ADAC email address....:p

nelsonmadiba 21st December 2008 14:23


Controller:
51,500 Dhs per month + all the above
is this valid for dubai ACC as well?

can someone explain what ADAC means?

Fox3snapshot 21st December 2008 15:16

First Answer, No, all the UAE contracts are independent and Dubai is an Approach Unit not an ACC.

Second Answer: ADAC - Abu Dhabi Airports Company

Abu Dhabi Airports Company

:cool:

nelsonmadiba 21st December 2008 21:18

so,should I apply for job as ACC atco there would be no chance of getting one in Dubai but only Abu Dhabi right?

Fox3snapshot 22nd December 2008 08:17

That I can't answer, perhaps use the 'shotgun' method and see what response you get. ;)

The Jolly Roger 28th December 2008 14:46

BIG day tomorrow........or is it!!!!! :hmm::hmm::hmm:

Tangur 29th December 2008 12:33

Sorry, guys! Could you help me? I'm looking for a job in UAE as a rated area air traffic controller. Is it possible to find some information about it...contacts for CV...:O Happy New Year !

danslemerde 29th December 2008 17:18

Question?
 
Anyone know the score for the DXB, AUH Controllers/Engineers and Serco?

Heard things are a bit sticky there and the Serco contract has only a temporary extension.

johnny555 30th December 2008 09:58

Any heads up on the "new" Jebli Ali airport project?
 
Hi guys, I was also in a similar quandary to the last gent in this post, I applied for and was interviewed for a Eng post at the new world airport (or what ever its working title now is?) Many months ago and have found a total "black hole" of information surrounding this topic.

(In fairness Serco may not be in a position to reply, but is no news good news?? -- I dunno!

Is any one in a position to say what’s going on with, is the DANS shake up holding thing up,? Is the recession putting a cap on the Airport project? are there enough labourers to finish the jobs? Has there just been "slippage" on the project (I have noticed projected operating dates have gone backwards (towards the future!) since Nov 2007 when the news was the first runway was completed.

It would be nice to know, cheers lads (and ladies)




The Jolly Roger 1st January 2009 09:41

Payday???
 
Vercing.......I'm surprised you don't know already now!!!

Basically new deal is 51k per month for new starters rising to about 57k for supervisors. Accommodation allowance is taken out of that then......you can have more or less what you want. GCAA are sure to b a little more...we'll have to wait and see. I'm happy, but considering what the airport guys with ADAC are getting, there's sure to be some sour heads. If you've got kids, its still not enough.

The Jolly Roger 2nd January 2009 06:09

From where I came, our ubions told us that 25% pay increases never happen.......mmmm...apparently they do!!!! Happy days.....now back to the beach...:cool:

BIGBRAT32 3rd January 2009 10:11

Site new guy looking for info
 
Anybody who can help,

A co-worker of mine and I are really intrigued about the possibility of applying and working in UAE. I'm trying to get a realistic salary number in US dollars and also if you know the time frame of the process from application to hire. I have read somewhere that they do not accept military experience is that for other countries or the US as well. Would the fact that I am a civilian working at a military facility disqualify me as well?

Don't know how often you check this but I sure hope you can respond and help me out.

Looking forward to corresponding w/you.

Frustrated Controller

BIGBRAT32 5th January 2009 19:25

Thanks!!!
 
Vercingetorix,

That helps out a bunch since my CTO was issued by the FAA here stateside I should be good to go. Probably looking at applying in a couple of months with that timeline you mentioned that would work out perfectly for things I need to take care of before hopefully getting signed on. So the minimum contract is 3 years? I think I read elsewhere that the leave/vacation authorized is 36 days or so?

More questions to follow and thanks again

BIGBRAT32 5th January 2009 20:20

Housing Allowance
 
V,

Is the allowance included in that 52K DHS per month package or is there a supplement to assist? Varying estimates on how much it actually costs to get a place. Let's just say I will be a single male not looking for anything overly extravagant but I definitely don't want to live in the "hood" as they say back here. Meaning a dangerous or dirty part of the city. On average how much would that be give or take?

Tower Ranger 6th January 2009 07:07

For a one bed apt somewhere that you would wanna live it will be about 150k and for a two bed it will start at 180K. Most of the people that have started within the last year are paying 200 or over for apartments.
Check out dubizzle.com , Cheers TR.

BIGBRAT32 6th January 2009 09:54

Cheers to you as well
 
Thanks for the info. But that still doesn't let me know if that comes out of a housing stipend or is that something that has to be paid out of pocket from the base salary. Any takers on that one :-)


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