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Checkerboard 28th September 2008 14:14

Separation Standards and RNP 10
 
Couple of questions for you ATCers out there from a pilot

1. What is the minimum separation you allow between two RNP 10 aircraft? I understand that the RNP 10 requirement is to be within 10nm but does that mean you allow a separation of 20nm betwwen two RNP 10 a/c or do you add a buffer in there as well?


2. What is the minimum separation you allow between a RNP 10 a/c and one that is not?

kme 28th September 2008 22:22

The separation in radar environment doesn´t have anything to do with your navigation capability. (depends on the radar system and procedures in use)

In procedural environments and cases with "deemed separation" between airways it might make a difference somewhere. I dont know of any procedural separation standard based on RNAV though...


But there are surely more suitable persons than me to answer on the last part :ok:

Spodman 29th September 2008 00:29

It is a bit more complicated than 10 + 10 + fudge factor, have a look at a cogent explanation - Required Navigation Performance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

RNP10 means the nav error of the aircraft will not exceed 10 NM for at least 95% of the time. That is not enuf tolerance for ATC standards, which require 99.something or other%. To get that level of containment you need a circular error of position of 25 NM, put your RNP10 aeroplanes 50 NM apart and they are separated. Don't need a buffer.

There are other same direction standards that let you get closer than that, and radar is better.

Hold West 29th September 2008 01:26

And that's exactly the separation used in the Oakland Oceanic FIR at least, 50 NM laterally between two RNP10 aircraft. It's still time-based longitudinally, 10 min standard, which can be reduced using mach technique.

Checkerboard 29th September 2008 14:13

Thats great guys, thanks for the replies! Should keep the students happy in my next course!


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