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sunnySA 3rd May 2017 10:18

the very latest.


Sydney trainees have been / are being told that Airservices is unable to secure an exemption and their 407 can't be renewed nor can a 457 be applied for on completion of training.
Going from bad to worse..

SThor 3rd May 2017 10:50


Originally Posted by sunnySA (Post 9759773)
the very latest.



Going from bad to worse..

I turned down an offer from Airservices as well, due personal reasons, have been regretting it ever since. Until now...

TowerATC 4th May 2017 09:22


Originally Posted by sunnySA (Post 9759773)
the very latest.

"Sydney trainees have been / are being told that Airservices is unable to secure an exemption and their 407 can't be renewed nor can a 457 be applied for on completion of training."

Going from bad to worse..

To add on

Trainees currently on position at various other stations are being told their visas will not be extended and to expect to return home.

Other people in the queue to leave their respective countries and move to ASA, have had their signed offers cancelled at the 11th hour.

-JLS- 22nd May 2017 10:25

On a side note, I've noticed their paid Trainee Technical Officer pathway has quietly slid into the abyss at some point - all references to it in the Careers section have vanished completely.

Cirrus8 26th May 2017 02:19

Hi, I've been reading this thread extensively over the past 18 months while completing my diploma in Aviation Theory. In that time I've only seen one application opening for ATC trainees. I've given my email address to Airservices to be notified of any openings but it's been a long time since I've seen anything. Does anyone have any information about when ASA will be accepting new applications? I also plan on contacting them directly

Forrestdude 28th May 2017 05:54

Hi Cirrus. In a similar position to you. I emailed Airservices last month regarding the fact that there has not been an application intake in quite a while. They replied saying that they hadn't been advised (at the time) as to when the next intake will be. Just told me to keep an eye on the website.

le Pingouin 28th May 2017 17:24

Unfortunately the rate of training has been cut right back, along with a stack of other stuff. There are still courses being run but considerably fewer of them and there are more than enough people already in the pipeline to fill the reduced number of course placements. Sorry I don't have any specific information for you either.

Forrestdude 28th May 2017 23:30

Thanks for that le Pingouin. I assumed that might have been the case. Still needing 80 new recruits a year according to the workforce plan however, but that'd probably put a lot of strain on the training centre.

Cirrus8 29th May 2017 11:27

I thought that might be the case. Thank you to you both for your replies

Knackers 30th May 2017 08:02

Airservices Australia boss: 457 visa change won’t affect air safety | The Australian

Lssar 30th May 2017 10:05

From the article:

Airservices Australia boss Jason Harfield has insisted the Turnbull government’s scrapping of the 457 visa would have no impact on the safety of the air traffic control system.

During this week’s Senate estimates hearings, Mr Harfield said the changes would impact “just under 40, I think it’s 38” of about 1100 air traffic controllers and the figures included trainees who were not yet fully qualified.

“Some of them were originally on 457 visas but have converted across to a different type of visa,” Mr Harfield said.

“We are just working through them individually, but I can guarantee that there will be no impact to the safety or operations of the air traffic control system,” he said.

The comments came after Senator Nick Xenophon said concerns had been put to him that the changes created “serious implications for air traffic control in this country and that a number of experienced recruits had been told they would not be able to stay as air traffic controllers”.

Under the government’s visa shake-up, announced last month, dumped 457 visas will be replaced by a new type of temporary skill shortage visa.

Air traffic controllers are on the list of skilled occupations that were removed because of the changes.

Pressed by Senator Xenophon, Mr Harfield said there was “capacity in the rosters and we’ve done that assessment that we are able to continue to maintain service provision during that time as we work through all of this”.

The comments are likely to fuel debate about how the aviation sector will be affected by the 457 visa changes, which take effect from March next year.

Regional Express has claimed the changes to the visa program will lead to a reduction in air services as it cuts pilots and aircraft maintenance engineers from the list.

But Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop said she had told Rex deputy chairman John Sharp there could be a review in the event of genuine shortages.




Best wishes for those 38/40 colleagues that took the leap, hope all ends up well for them and their families.

EagleEye85 18th June 2017 23:15

Hi all,
Has anyone heard any update or been invited to attend the next round
of Assessment Centres for 2017? And if so what month?

shep_001 30th June 2017 01:01

Hi all,
Is anyone on the Sep tower course?

remington 1st July 2017 03:25

Hi Shep - have PM'd you.

Defender45 4th July 2017 14:48

Sent a message to Airservices. They just told me they were reviewing operational needs of course. Might end up just going through Air Force as an ATC and transfer eventually to a civilian ATC.

50 50 5th July 2017 05:06


Originally Posted by Defender45 (Post 9820672)
Sent a message to Airservices. They just told me they were reviewing operational needs of course. Might end up just going through Air Force as an ATC and transfer eventually to a civilian ATC.

So have you applied, done testing and interviews or are you just looking at it now?

Forrestdude 5th July 2017 05:33

Hmmmm oh well, I guess we will keep waiting until the day comes. As you say Air Force or ATC in other countries may have to be the go to in a few months if no information surfaces.

Defender45 6th July 2017 04:59


Originally Posted by 50 50 (Post 9821142)
So have you applied, done testing and interviews or are you just looking at it now?

Only just applied a few days ago. No testing or interviews done yet

Showa Cho 6th July 2017 11:44

Just don't tell the RAAF that you're applying for ATC as a way to get into civilian ATC....bad form.

EagleEye85 7th July 2017 22:10


Originally Posted by shep_001 (Post 9816688)
Hi all,
Is anyone on the Sep tower course?

Hi shep_001,

Was that Tower course originally booked in for August 2017? And also what month/year did you submit your online application? Cheers.


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