Hi kpnagidi,

Verification was pretty much the same as online tests pre interview.

Good luck!!!

Thanks a lot,you too!

Start date delayed
 

Hey all. I wanted to take a moment to thank you all for keeping in touch. And I hope you don't stop because it appears my visa and CASA are dragging so I will not do the March 31 start date. I heard the next class is in July 2014 and that there were others that had to be postponed.

Anyone else getting delayed? Well, July is my birthday month so maybe I will get an awesome present. :)

Clear2land78 I really wish it's only a temporary thing your CASA mixup, keep your chin up, I hope to get an equivalent present before the 12th of July too!!!

I'm sorry to break into this topic but may I ask if there's an age limit to start the ATC training program?
And what if you don't have some Degree but many many years in aviation maintenance?

Thanks! GDU

Few Questions...
 

Hey guys, just in the process of applying and have a few questions.

Can someone said some light on what its actually like at the academy (I am sure it probably discusses it at some point but I don't really want to go all the way back through the thread to find it).
-What are the working hours? 9am-5pm Monday to Friday?
-Is there ever weekend work/'learning' required (at the centre, I have read work at home is often required)?
-How is it taught? For example, I am used to university with a lecture and then tutorials. Obviously I realise its not the same, just wondering what to expect if I were to make it. I am aware there is simulator training but that comes later, so more directed at what at the start.
-What is the uniform? Shirt and tie? Or is there an Airservices Uniform?
-In terms of final placement, I realise there is the whole 'we will try and accommodate your request but no guarantees' line. Realistically, what are my chances of ending up in Tamworth/Coffs etc as opposed to a capital city (this is for Tower obviously)
-The Learning Academy... is it just in with the control tower/enroute centre at Tullamarine?

Hey All, sorry, haven't read the whole thread yet, but just wanted to query something.
At present dates shown for application are
Advertised:
28 Jun 2013 Aus. Eastern Standard Time
Closing date:
30 Apr 2014 11:55pm Aus. Eastern Standard Time

But I read that people are applying at all times of the year. Is this date just the date at which they'll put up a new add for the next 12 months?
Or as these dates show, do they often shut down from accepting applications for a few months in between?

True
 

-What are the working hours? 9am-5pm Monday to Friday?
Usually 0700 to 1500 although there may be later starts/finishes depending on number of courses and simulator availability.

-Is there ever weekend work/'learning' required (at the centre, I have read work at home is often required)?
Weekend work, no. Homework yes. For example, you need to know your separation standards thoroughly. There is no time to look them up in the simulator.

-How is it taught? For example, I am used to university with a lecture and then tutorials. Obviously I realise its not the same, just wondering what to expect if I were to make it. I am aware there is simulator training but that comes later, so more directed at what at the start.
Training is intense and doesn't let up. Subjects are varied. Human factors, navigation, air law, principles of flight, instrument charts, aerodrome surfaces and markings, radio and radar plus a lot more. That's before you get near the simulators where you really work. Classes are usually one instructor with a group. Lots of note taking. It is not a lecture environment. You can always ask a question and encouraged to do so.

-What is the uniform? Shirt and tie? Or is there an Airservices Uniform?
No uniform, just neat casual although many trainees wear the Airservices T shirts.

-In terms of final placement, I realise there is the whole 'we will try and accommodate your request but no guarantees' line. Realistically, what are my chances of ending up in Tamworth/Coffs etc as opposed to a capital city (this is for Tower obviously)
You have answered your own question.

-The Learning Academy... is it just in with the control tower/enroute centre at Tullamarine? Separate building but very close.

Anyone else get an invite for online testing within the last week for the experienced TWR positions advertised in October last year? Initially I got an email in Dec saying: "you have not been shortlisted for the regional TWR positions but we will circulate your CV to managers for other positions that may suit your skills better", then I got an email on Monday this week saying your application has been progressed and to do the online testing.

GDU, there's no age limit and you need Year 12 or a pilots licence. Check out the Airservices webite for specific details.

There is no age discrimination (positive or negative) so you have to sink or swim on your own merits and the learning is fast paced and long. There is limited scope to cater for those who are a bit slow on the uptake - something that comes to all of us as we age. At 45 you are mentally slower and less flexible than you at 25.

That said, your performance is measured against a standard so you either meet it or not. You at 45 might well be more capable than the next applicant at 25, so your age itself is not a show stopper. It just makes it harder.

Hey. So I was told that immigration has everything they need. I am keeping my fingers crossed (I have a medical thing I am working with). CASA advised me all looks good but I have to do the eye exam and the closest person who can do it is in London (I live in San Francisco). I am hoping I can get this worked out. Will keep you posted.

Hi everybody,

I have recently applied for the ATC course specifying a preference for En Route in Melbourne. I have a few questions which I am unable to find answers for either here or elsewhere;
After an application how long does it take to receive a reply email either positive or negative on average?
Is there a shortage of En Route controllers specifically? Or are shortages only being experienced in towers / aerodromes?
Are there any recommendations for reading I can do in the meantime to cover some of the theory learnt during the early part of the course?

Thanks in advance.

Hi EML,


I applied last year and just missed out so waiting to re-apply next week.


When I applied, I waited about a month before I got a response from my initial application to do an online test. When I did the online test, had an email the next morning to book a phone interview and at the end of the interview was told I was successful and would be contacted for an assessment which happened a couple of months later. If you're successful at the assessment day then nobody really knows, but back then about a couple of weeks seemed to be the go.


From what I understand, whether you pic En-Rout or Tower doesn't seem to concern them so much. I guess it would depend on their operational requirements and possibly your performance during the assessment may demonstrate you have greater aptitude for one over the other which they might consider.


I don't know much about what's covered in the course, but anything on weather and air law would be a good start. Maybe Bob Tait CPL Weather which pilots study and the AIP and CAR for law.

First callsign error?:)

Any news on the starting date
 

Any idea when the course is starting ?
Cheers

Hey SenZubEanS,
You are correct. Applications will close at the end of April.
It is unsure when they will open again, but it wont be in the short term. There are a few changes being flagged in the recruitment process, and until they are finalised, it wont open again.
So, for all of those people thinking about applying, my suggestion is to not miss the deadline!

Anyone in July tower class in Melbourne?
 

Hey all. Just got word that I now have a work visa (woohoo!!). I am sending CASA the rest of the information they have requested. I am hoping immigration is harder than CASA. LOL. That being said, it appears I will be in the yet-to-be-determined July tower class in Melbourne.

I have heard a few things about how arranging housing is set up. Haven't heard much in the sense of transportation from the complex to work. Some said carpooling was popular. Can I start bribing anyone now? :)

Anyways, if anyone is looking at July or going to Sydney, please hit me up. I only know like 4 people in Australia and one of those is on here. LOL.

;)

I think you're put up in a hotel for the first couple of weeks but after that you'll need to find your own accommodation. Public transport isn't an option and the roads around the airport aren't exactly cycle friendly, so you'll need a car or catch a ride with a course-mate.

I had the understanding that housing while in training is covered. Upon location to Sydney, they provide temporary housing til I find a place. As far as a car goes, I'd like to hold off as much as possible. I don't know the rules about being allowed to own one, etc. Hope to catch some of you there! If anyone needs a friend (or mate as you call em), I'm game. I am kinda of a neat freak though. LOL.

July 2014 Tower Course
 

It appears I will be in the July 2014 Tower Course in Melbourne. If anyone will be there too, please feel free to chat me up.