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greatorex 1st April 2006 20:35

Problems at Liverpool ATC?
 
A little outside my usual DOC - but - a friend of mine who flies for VLM says that over half the ATC staff at Liverpool are looking to leave and that things are not too good there, not sure if it's true or not? Rumor has it that there maybe a new company ownership/management in the pipeline???? Anyone know any more?

niknak 1st April 2006 21:34

Rumours abound re the atco's seeking opportunities elsewhere, but as for new ownership? Peel own Liverpool and most of the North West of England.

Unless there's a huge profit to be had it's unlikely that they'd unload it.

Cavallier 2nd April 2006 04:12

I thought it was a guy in a Seneca last summer that tipped them over the edge!

The Cav;)

JustaFew 2nd April 2006 14:00

My recovery programme was doing well until you mentioned 'that Seneca',
Cavalier...:(
Now the nightmares will start again, I can feel a move coming on.

squibbler 2nd April 2006 14:38

Stampede!!!!!!!
 
Oh come on. I know the place will never be the same without me but 12 leaving en masse??

Rats / sinking ship??

http://www.longdog.karoo.net/smilies/titanic.gif

Go for it! :ok:

cossack 2nd April 2006 15:56

Hey squibbler, you must have one hell of a commute!
By my reckoning you're 5732Km west of EGGP. Or 3562 statute miles in "old money.":8
Hope you're settling in well.

Vampy 2nd April 2006 17:14

It's true that Liverpool ain't a happy place at the moment. I would doubt that 12 guys will go, but certainly at least 3 will. The problem then will be how to staff Doncaster Radar as at least 2 from Doncaster Radar will probably go, maybe 3, maybe even 4. As my rather feisty friend cheesy has sort of stated above, these problems could well have been avoided. However, hindsight is a wonderful thing (or something!) :ok:

BitMoreRightRudder 2nd April 2006 17:15

Ok sorry to be nosey, but would love to hear what the seneca did. Sounds interesting:E

Sorry to hear you guys ain't enjoying life on t'other side of the airfield. Hope it gets sorted out.

royman 2nd April 2006 17:52

If you consider that the night shifts are " illegal" why hasn't this been reported to SRG?

squibbler 2nd April 2006 18:53


Originally Posted by cossack
Hey squibbler, you must have one hell of a commute!
By my reckoning you're 5732Km west of EGGP. Or 3562 statute miles in "old money.":8
Hope you're settling in well.

Oh !!!!! I meant Km of course :O . Must remember that miles are are thing of the past!! (It'll always be mpg though....will never get used to litres/100km:yuk: )

Settling in fine thanks Cossack, at least we're above freezing now!!

machinehead 2nd April 2006 20:18

what's said/agreed and what actually happens here are two different things:*

royman 3rd April 2006 09:57

There was a posting about night shifts, honest.

Tony Le Mesmer 3rd April 2006 12:43

If my memory serves me well a Seneca from down south made such a hash of his taxi clearance at Liverpool that he caused a controllers heart to soar to dangerous levels and subsequently resign. This story however is 3rd hand so I do not know of the credibility!

Vampy 3rd April 2006 13:04

The posting about the night shifts seems to have disappeared. However, these are the shifts in place for nights at Liverpool. Bear in mind that the airport (Tower and Radar) is open 24hrs:

Monday-Friday: The night shift is from 2145-0700. We have 2 people in for nights, one in radar and one in tower. There is also an evening shift who provide breaks. The evening shift is from 1445-0000.

Saturday and Sunday: There is no evening shift so there are 2 people on duty from 2145-0700. Again the airport is notified fully open 24Hrs.

There is also just one assistant on duty for nights from 2120-0645.

royman 3rd April 2006 17:44

Why do all the big rants keep disappearing?

Friio4 3rd April 2006 17:55

;) I think a big turnout at a naked monday in the near future is required to lift some of this tension.

Vampy 3rd April 2006 18:03


I think a big turnout at a naked monday in the near future is required to lift some of this tension
:eek:

lol. But that would be swiftly followed by mass sickness on the tuesday! :}

RAC/OPS 3rd April 2006 19:42

...Especially if you take part Vampy!!

JustaFew 3rd April 2006 22:36

:D :\ :uhoh: :yuk:

Vampy 4th April 2006 06:52

And just to calm the anger on here a tad, something that seems to have slipped by unnoticed:


Rumor has it that there maybe a new company ownership/management in the pipeline????
What's that all about?


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