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Roidelstein 15th September 2005 14:20

Question for an ATCO
 
Just a quick question for controllers: When you clear an A/C to descend when ready to a FL, do you expect the crew to then report when actually leaving or do you consider this an unnecessary call to make?

benedictus 15th September 2005 14:24

I would say it was unecessary unless you were asked to report leaving a level

Coast 15th September 2005 15:09

Unnecessary.

But here's one I like
"Centre, Speedbird 97 looking for descent"
"Speedbird 97 cleared to FL240"
"240....is that our discretion?"

What I thought: 'Of course d@&*head, you asked for it'

What I said (after drawing blood on my tongue) "Affirmative"

ATCO1962 15th September 2005 16:11

I don't know how many ATC manuals still have it written, but it used to always be a requirement to report when reaching or leaving an assigned level. In today's crowded skies, it seems a little archaic, but in procedural airspace, it's a nice call to keep you in the picture.

IMHO, it's always a good, last minute check to see if, as an ATCO, you actually have a clear bit of airspace ahead of the subject aircraft as he starts his/her descent. You may have had nothing in sight when you issued the descent, but things may have changed by the time it actually starts going down. Many will say that you shouldn't have issued the descent in the first place if you didn't have a clear patch, but that kind of thinking belongs to those of us who have never issued a dodgy clearance in their careers.:ok:

Bon chance!

Barry Cuda 15th September 2005 21:21

It's polite to do so, I would say, but if the frequency is busy I wouldn't worry too much about it...

cons 15th September 2005 21:57

in non-radar traffic, yes we do

DirtyPierre 15th September 2005 22:15

Still an ICAO requirement to report leaving a level.

However, in radar airspace with a labeled display, not a big deal.

In procedural airspace, definitely a requirement.

Smurfjet 16th September 2005 05:09

Within Canadian RVSM airspace, pilots are required to report reaching their assigned altitude.

Coast 16th September 2005 19:51

Within Canadian RVSM airspace, pilots are required to report reaching their assigned
 
Where did you read this? I don't believe pilots are "required" to make this report.

Smurfjet 17th September 2005 03:45

late night reply
 
Coast my mistake, I meant to say when non radar. :{ :} :hmm:


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