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terry1261 14th February 2005 13:50

bournemouth atc
 
Is it true bournemouth atc need 5 ATCOs?
Why are peolple not flocking to get there?
where are the adverts??

Evil J 14th February 2005 22:31

Coz they only seem to offer bottom of scale, irrespective of experience!! Lousy MAG pension....need I go on?

Jerricho 14th February 2005 23:16

One hears they have certain managerial issues as well.

Banana Split 15th February 2005 08:13

Well they've just recruited one from Middle Wallop, but I don't think it's the happiest of units. I know it used to have a little clique, not sure about now though.

tribekey 15th February 2005 09:36

Five ATCO'S left early last year for various reasons. Two (with radar)were recruited late last year and are undergoing training.
Also,an advert was placed in Flight late last year with a view to recruit two more controllers.Interviews took place but those offered the jobs turned them down as pay and conditions are not up to industry rates.
Two more controllers are starting soon but are not radar rated.

Manchester group promised a pay review last summer, this is still ongoing and hence potential recruits can only be told 'pay and conditions under review'.

Top of scale for a fully qualified controller with several years experience is about 45k. Few potential extra k's for l.c.e etc.
Shifts 6 on 3 off moving to 6 on 4 off when numbers increase.

Clique - maybe, but it is a generally friendly and pleasant unit with often challenging traffic.

ILS 119.5 15th February 2005 18:38

If they are short of staff then why do they not advertise?

Chilli Monster 15th February 2005 21:39


If they are short of staff then why do they not advertise?
Possible realisation that there aren't enough qualified people out there - therefore advertising maybe seen as pointless?

Two more controllers are starting soon but are not radar rated.
Any chance during OJT these new guys can be taught not to line someone up with one still to vacate and another on short final ;)

vfrflyer 16th February 2005 10:58

What chance relocation package?

What chance a job with radar?

What chance 45k from start?

squibbler 16th February 2005 11:21


Any chance during OJT these new guys can be taught not to line someone up with one still to vacate and another on short final ;)
People in glass houses etc..........! :E

Legs11 16th February 2005 15:12

ooh Sqibbler, naughty:ooh:

161R 17th February 2005 09:08

Bournemouth Staffing
 
Shortage of ATCO's? Bournemouth?

If the owners of a nearby training establishment were also the ATS provider, wouldn't that make common sense?



OK. I see your point

goddammit 27th February 2005 08:47


What chance relocation package?What chance a job with radar? What chance 45k from start?
Well vfrflyer, i see no reponse to those Q's here. Did you get any response by PM?



When did bournemouth last do 6 on 4 off? Will replacing the 5 that left last year be enough, or are even more required??

Is JB still captain of the ship?

nnelgcta 27th February 2005 10:35

bournemouth atc
 
no wonder controller shortage when you receive no reply to sending in your cv and covering letter, even if it is in the negative!

vfrflyer 27th February 2005 13:39

goddammit

No response of any sort.


nnelgcta
I don't think you're alone with that one, i think it's a reflection of the management style

goddammit 27th February 2005 13:49

I spoke to somebody on the phone there just the other day, all a bit vague about recruitment, perhaps they've found all they want/need.

Ah well, maybe next time:ok:

Chilli Monster 27th February 2005 15:13


no wonder controller shortage when you receive no reply to sending in your cv and covering letter, even if it is in the negative!
Obviously a MAG management technique used at all their airports ;)

Spitoon 27th February 2005 17:39

Just had a look at the airport's website. Front page says you can fly to 36 destinations from there but when you click on the link there's only 15 places listed.

Maybe they have the same problem counting controllers.

tribekey 28th February 2005 10:26

JB hasn't been manager since last october
only three of the five who left last year have been replaced-all undergoing training,two nearly complete.
three more are to be recruited.
MAG still haven't made a pay offer they promised last april but it is believed to be imminent.
Last M.D. of bournemouth airport was NOT good for the place,badly damaging morale etc.
ATC unit IS a good place to work,largely friendly etc.

vfrflyer 28th February 2005 13:33

So who's manager now?

is jb still there?

Who's in charge of recruitment?


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