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Freddles 5th Jan 2024 16:56

Middle east working situation
 
Hi, are there any Area controllers working in centres in the middle east able to highlight pay and working conditions? I'm 5 years valid and starting to look at a move. I found an earlier forum from about 6 years ago that seemed to be pretty scathing to basically everywhere over there so I was wondering (hoping) that working conditions had improved! I'd be interested for information on basically anywhere that would take an Area ticket.
Cheers.

Mamluk 10th Jan 2024 16:55

Unfortunately, the ME ATC working environment is (still) very unorganized and stressful compared to the "developed" ATC regions (count on outdated airspace structures and regulations, excessive workload at peak hours due to absence of any flow control, loose work ethics, inefficient usage of ATC equipment, etc.).
On the other hand, lifestyle can be interesting and appealing to many; there are more than enough annual vacation days, and salaries are generally in the "five digits" USD range.
Muscat was hiring just a few weeks ago (after a long time) , Doha and Abu Dhabi hire occasionally, and Bahrain is not hiring UFN.
As far as I know, no Area positions are available for expatriates in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

Memento Mori 16th Jan 2024 19:57


Originally Posted by Mamluk (Post 11573247)
Unfortunately, the ME ATC working environment is (still) very unorganized and stressful compared to the "developed" ATC regions (count on outdated airspace structures and regulations, excessive workload at peak hours due to absence of any flow control, loose work ethics, inefficient usage of ATC equipment, etc.).
On the other hand, lifestyle can be interesting and appealing to many; there are more than enough annual vacation days, and salaries are generally in the "five digits" USD range.
Muscat was hiring just a few weeks ago (after a long time) , Doha and Abu Dhabi hire occasionally, and Bahrain is not hiring UFN.
As far as I know, no Area positions are available for expatriates in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

Do you know anything or someone in Abu Dhabi TWR when there will be opportunities again? Seems like it takes some time after passing the assessment?

Mamluk 29th Jan 2024 14:08

Sorry, no info on that...

Vlad the Impaler 10th Feb 2024 14:15

Don’t do it
 

Originally Posted by Memento Mori (Post 11577438)
Do you know anything or someone in Abu Dhabi TWR when there will be opportunities again? Seems like it takes some time after passing the assessment?

steer well clear of Abu Dhabi Tower. It’s an absolute ****hole run by the worst kind of penny pinching back stabbing bastards. And those are its good points. Shame really, Abu Dhabi is a great place to live 🤷

Memento Mori 18th Feb 2024 17:32


Originally Posted by Vlad the Impaler (Post 11594367)
steer well clear of Abu Dhabi Tower. It’s an absolute ****hole run by the worst kind of penny pinching back stabbing bastards. And those are its good points. Shame really, Abu Dhabi is a great place to live 🤷

I sent you a PM

Jaydawg 23rd Apr 2024 15:10

Hi - Area controller looking to move to the ME region - any info would be appreciated on the employers and conditions - not too worried about the pay packages so much as who you'd be working for and the respect (if any that you're likely to receive)
Any info or PM's appreciated.

Thanks.
JD

ATC alert 12th May 2024 04:52

I also agree stay clear of Abu Dhabi. Just look at the number of job postings they continually advertise for many related Air Navigation positions. Project managers, department heads and associated jobs just leave as quick as they arrive. I've literally observed 20 postings for jobs at GANS at one time. That tells you what a hole of an employer they are and this applies to ATCO's as well. They have paid the lowest compensation in the region for the last 10 years and even a name change of the company can't hide that.

If you have absolutely no other choices than I understand but be prepared for another move in your near future.

Jaydawg 12th May 2024 16:36

Alert - thanks for the feedback - Can anyone else give some feedback on Bahrain or Doha? Someone mentioned Bahrain is not hiring but how are the conditions there and Doha? Perhaps an opening might come up so at least I can have some up to date information.

Thanks to all again.


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